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FireWaterBurn 05-21-2012 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuna (Post 1191379)
Unlikely. For all we know, professional basketball could be played for another 2000 years, it's statistically unlikely that the most dominant player of the first 100 years of bball would remain the best after 2000 years.

Even if you matched him in every single stat category, the era he dominated and the feeling of that time period will never be matched. With more and more great players and considering how the NBA has reached the foreign plays as well, I really don't see anyone being as good as MJ. He had all the intangibles you'd ever want.

People are already saying Bynum or Gasol has to go. It will be interesting to see what they could get for Gasol. I don't think they could get much that would make them a better team. Steve Nash is a free agent, I wonder if they will try to work some magic to get him. I say screw getting younger, go get some shooters and restock for next season.

midnight rain 05-21-2012 11:07 PM



Can't say I'll miss you!

FireWaterBurn 05-21-2012 11:14 PM

Typical immature Bynum. Dude will never grow up. But he's an immense talent and the 2nd best center in the game. And judging by the Lakers past reluctance to trade him, I don't see him going anywhere. Kobe wanted Bynum traded a few years ago for Jason Kidd and Lakers wouldn't do it.

I think Gasol is gone. I don't think he should be, but after all the speculation and attempts to trade him last off-season, I really don't see him staying in LA. Not sure who would really want him and his contract and what they'd give up for him, but maybe the Lakers will find a sucker to deal with (like they did when they got Gasol)

debaserr 05-22-2012 12:09 AM

The only way they will let go of Bynum is if they land Howard (or some other mega star).

PS: That trade didn't work out THAT bad for Memphis, they landed his brother and a 1st round pick.

FireWaterBurn 05-22-2012 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by eric generic (Post 1191397)
The only way they will let go of Bynum is if they land Howard (or some other mega star).

PS: That trade didn't work out THAT bad for Memphis, they landed his brother and a 1st round pick.

Good point, it was actually a pretty good trade for them now that I think about it. Just took a few years to pan out for the Grizz and the trade made LA a powerhouse with the best big man duo in the league, propelling them to 2 straight titles. I actually really like Marc's game and think he is really under rated.

And you're right, they wouldn't give up Bynum unless they got Dwight in my opinion. And I could see that happening. Dwight has been a huge douche in Orlando and I think he will walk after next season. And last season showed me that the Lakers are willing to make big moves with the whole CP3 voided deal and shipping Odom out of town (such a dumb move though!!).

The more I thought about it tonight, the more Steve Nash makes sense in LA. I'm not sure about salary cap implications, but aside from that ya gotta figure Nash only wants to go to a legit title contender and LA is pretty much the only legit contender without a great PG. The other great teams are great because of their current PGs (Westbrook, Rose, Parker, Rondo, and LBJ is pretty much a point guard forward for Miami). Whatever happens, everything is magnified in LA and it's gonna be a really interesting off-season for them.

Dr_Rez 05-22-2012 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuna (Post 1191380)
Wait do you agree or disagree with me? It sounds like you agree, but I'm not sure.

Both. You said he didnt perform up to spec yet he had an over 40 point game. I agree though with your comment about okc being the better team overall.

midnight rain 05-22-2012 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Rez (Post 1191500)
Both. You said he didnt perform up to spec yet he had an over 40 point game. I agree though with your comment about okc being the better team overall.

I said he did perform well the series, but the rest of the team didn't so I think we are in agreement.

Even the most adamant Kobe haters couldn't deny that 42 pts on 18-33 shooting is a good game.

Sparky 05-22-2012 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by FireWaterBurn (Post 1191404)
Good point, it was actually a pretty good trade for them now that I think about it. Just took a few years to pan out for the Grizz and the trade made LA a powerhouse with the best big man duo in the league, propelling them to 2 straight titles. I actually really like Marc's game and think he is really under rated.

And you're right, they wouldn't give up Bynum unless they got Dwight in my opinion. And I could see that happening. Dwight has been a huge douche in Orlando and I think he will walk after next season. And last season showed me that the Lakers are willing to make big moves with the whole CP3 voided deal and shipping Odom out of town (such a dumb move though!!).

The more I thought about it tonight, the more Steve Nash makes sense in LA. I'm not sure about salary cap implications, but aside from that ya gotta figure Nash only wants to go to a legit title contender and LA is pretty much the only legit contender without a great PG. The other great teams are great because of their current PGs (Westbrook, Rose, Parker, Rondo, and LBJ is pretty much a point guard forward for Miami). Whatever happens, everything is magnified in LA and it's gonna be a really interesting off-season for them.

I don't thin Dwight is going anywhere after he successfully ran Gundy and staff out of town.

Steve Nash wouldn't work in LA, it just wouldn't. I would much rather see Nash in Utah, they would have a great team with him at point. Nash actually looked pretty old to me this season and wouldn't complain if he just retired.

blastingas10 05-22-2012 01:39 PM

I'm hoping Indiana can close the series, but I bet miami will take it. It's gonna be interesting.

OKC vs San Antonio is going to be epic. OKC is younger, probably has a little more talent, but I think San antonio just finds a way to get it done like they always have.

FireWaterBurn 05-22-2012 11:39 PM

Heat ran away with Game 5 starting with a minute left in the 1st half. A game most people expected them to win. I'd normally give Indiana a 50-50 chance next game, but Granger isn't gonna be 100% and they really need him. Heat win Game 6 by 10 I think, but great season for the Pacers.

debaserr 05-23-2012 12:24 AM

Most people? After they dominated G4?

FireWaterBurn 05-23-2012 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by eric generic (Post 1191705)
Most people? After they dominated G4?

Yeah, what are you trying to say?

debaserr 05-23-2012 12:49 AM

Oh sorry, misread your post.

Dr_Rez 05-23-2012 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by eric generic (Post 1191708)
Oh sorry, misread your post.

**** you Lehee, you drunk bastard. Go back to your trailer ****bird.

debaserr 05-23-2012 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ESPN
Sources: Shaq, Magic to discuss GM job

This is the funniest thing I've seen/heard for quite some time.

Sparky 05-25-2012 12:58 PM

I really thought indiana could force game 7 :(

I think the heat are going to beat boston in 6 as well. Boston plays good defense, but they struggle to close games and can be totally absent on offense for long stretches. Miami plays good defense and can score with relative ease.

Sparky 05-26-2012 06:15 PM

rondo misses more layups than any other PG i've ever seen

TheBig3 05-26-2012 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 1192974)
rondo misses more layups than any other PG i've ever seen

Does it kill you that he buried it in the 4th?

Just wondering.

debaserr 05-26-2012 10:36 PM

I assume Sparky is an unbiased observer, Mr. Boston.

TheBig3 05-27-2012 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by eric generic (Post 1193020)
I assume Sparky is an unbiased observer, Mr. Boston.

I assume you wrote that just to point out I'm bias for Boston. Thats fine. I am.

But to be fair, no one gives Boston a lick of credit. Watch the outlandish ball-washing that Miami gets when we play them.

Thom Yorke 05-27-2012 12:07 PM

Miami in 5 or 6.

I honestly have no idea who to take between the Spurs and Thunder, but I expect it to go 6 or 7 either way. All I know is that the Heat vs. Thunder would be the sweetest Finals everrrrr.

FireWaterBurn 05-27-2012 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 1192552)
I really thought indiana could force game 7 :(

I think the heat are going to beat boston in 6 as well. Boston plays good defense, but they struggle to close games and can be totally absent on offense for long stretches. Miami plays good defense and can score with relative ease.

I actually think kinda of the opposite. Heat struggle much more in closing games than Boston. And Miami's offense looks awful at times when they can't get out and run. It sure looks a lot better when D Wade is playing out of his mind like last game though. I think Heat take the series in 5. Boston is the smarter team but the Heat (if they're smart) will be able to run wild up and down the court. With Bradley getting hurt recently and Allen having bad legs, it's gonna be incredibly tough I think for Boston to keep up with the pace. I think Rondo is just gonna have to play out of his mind.

Which makes me wonder how the Heat will D up the Celtics. Do you put Battier on Garnett? And Wade/LBJ on Pierce/Rondo and let Chalmers chase Allen around? I really don't now what they'll do without Bosh.

Thunder VS Spurs tonight. Like everyone else, I'm beyond thrilled to watch this and could see it going either way. I'd be shocked if it doesn't go at least 6 games. I'll take the Thunder because Durant is the ultimate equalizer and can take over the game at any time. I'm lookin for Parker to try to draw fouls on Westbrook early and try to get him in foul trouble tonight.

debaserr 05-27-2012 04:57 PM

I have little idea what's going to happen in the OKC/SA series, and all the more excited for it.

Miami will roll Boston. I don't know why Allen is even out there, he's a huge defensive liability and his offensive production could easily be met by a bench player.

TheBig3 05-27-2012 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by eric generic (Post 1193222)
I have little idea what's going to happen in the OKC/SA series, and all the more excited for it.

Miami will roll Boston. I don't know why Allen is even out there, he's a huge defensive liability and his offensive production could easily be met by a bench player.

You should be, thats going to be the best one in the whole playoffs. (all the playoffs? how the F would you say that?)

debaserr 05-27-2012 07:45 PM

The winner of the WCF will win the title fairly easily, that's why.

FireWaterBurn 05-27-2012 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by eric generic (Post 1193263)
The winner of the WCF will win the title fairly easily, that's why.

:bonkhead::bonkhead::bonkhead::bonkhead::bonkhead:


Thunder definitely came ready to defend that Parker pick and roll. What amazing defense tonight by OKC. Just a matter if they can hang on here these last few minutes. Big minutes tonight for guys like Fisher and Collison. Stealing game 1 on the road would be so gigantic

Sparky 05-27-2012 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1192998)
Does it kill you that he buried it in the 4th?

Just wondering.

I like rondo and am rooting for boston.

Rondo just misses too many layups, he over thinks them you can tell from his delivery.

KG made a nasty miss too, don't know why he didn't slam it. Boston doesn't look like they have enough in the tank to even play the amount of games they would need in order be champions.

blastingas10 05-27-2012 10:16 PM

Maybe rondo does miss layups but he's still a hell of a point gaurd.

I've been feeling a spurs championship. I started thinking maybe this is going to be OKC's year, but they just keep running into better coached and more experienced teams - mavs last year, spurs this year. They always have more talent, the spurs are just gonna get it done like the mavs did last year.

I'm thinking the celtics vs heat series is going is going to be a good one. I'm not going to count out the celtics, they're gonna make it interesting. I cant really say who's going to win. I'm thinking the heat in 6 or 7. The celtics are going to give em a hard time like the pacers did, but I think the heat are gonna have too much in the end.

I'm seeing a spurs vs heat final. It's going to be a great series.

FireWaterBurn 05-28-2012 12:29 AM

I hate the Celtics just because Rondo is a punk who I hate more than any other player in the league. And I hate Garnett at times. I think he needs his insanity and style to be as great as he has been but he's still a punk sometimes. And although I love Pierce's game, he's such a drama queen. I'll never forget vs the Lakers when he left on a wheelchair lol. So unnecessary. I could live with a ring for any of the other 3 teams. Spurs would get their 5th with Duncan which would be sweet. I'm a huge defender of LeBron though so I'd really like him to get a ring and shut up some of the idiotic haters.

Spurs experience got them Game 1. Thunder outplayed the Spurs for 3 quarters and let this one slip away from them. A little too aggressive and out of control in this one.

TheBig3 05-28-2012 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1193102)
I assume you wrote that just to point out I'm bias for Boston. Thats fine. I am.

But to be fair, no one gives Boston a lick of credit. Watch the outlandish ball-washing that Miami gets when we play them.

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Originally Posted by FireWaterBurn (Post 1193315)
I hate the Celtics just because Rondo is a punk who I hate more than any other player in the league. And I hate Garnett at times. I think he needs his insanity and style to be as great as he has been but he's still a punk sometimes. And although I love Pierce's game, he's such a drama queen. I'll never forget vs the Lakers when he left on a wheelchair lol. So unnecessary. I could live with a ring for any of the other 3 teams. Spurs would get their 5th with Duncan which would be sweet. I'm a huge defender of LeBron though so I'd really like him to get a ring and shut up some of the idiotic haters.

Case in point, your honor.

FireWaterBurn 05-28-2012 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1193351)
Case in point, your honor.

Eh, I'm not sure what point you are really trying to make. But Boston gets the credit they deserve. It took them 7 games and home court advantage to put away a Philly team that Miami would destroy, and they wouldn't even have to worry about the Heat if Rose doesn't tear his ACL on a freak injury because Chicago would have taken care of the Celtics in 5. Celtics are an old team who used to be great. They get the exact respect they deserve. Miami probably gets less than they deserve since LeBron is unjustly the most hated guy in the league. I can't hear another year of lame LBJ jokes, plus he deserves a ring as much as anyone. So here's a cheers to the Heat taking the trophy

debaserr 05-28-2012 12:00 PM

The wheelchair incident is the only redeeming quality of the 2008 Finals as a LA fan.

Sparky 05-30-2012 09:52 PM

i felt so bad for rondo :(

if the ref gives him that foul call on his head it may have turned out differently.

Miami needs to look sharper than this. If rondo's pick an roll game can have this effect then tony parker/popovich are going to tear it apart

FireWaterBurn 05-30-2012 09:56 PM

Rondo might have gotten the call if he wasn't such a flopper. Consider it a case of the boy who cried wolf. But yeah, obvious foul.

Rondo played 10X better than he has ever played before and the Heat barely scored in the 4th quarter. LeBron and Wade both missed huge foul shots too. And they still won. Heat are just a way better team, I've replaced my pencil mark with a pen mark for them in the Title game. Huge game for Thunder in game 3, but the Spurs are just too well coached and too smooth.

TheBig3 05-30-2012 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FireWaterBurn (Post 1194517)
Rondo might have gotten the call if he wasn't such a flopper. Consider it a case of the boy who cried wolf. But yeah, obvious foul.

Rondo played 10X better than he has ever played before and the Heat barely scored in the 4th quarter. LeBron and Wade both missed huge foul shots too. And they still won. Heat are just a way better team, I've replaced my pencil mark with a pen mark for them in the Title game. Huge game for Thunder in game 3, but the Spurs are just too well coached and too smooth.

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 1193102)
I assume you wrote that just to point out I'm bias for Boston. Thats fine. I am.

But to be fair, no one gives Boston a lick of credit. Watch the outlandish ball-washing that Miami gets when we play them.

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Originally Posted by FireWaterBurn (Post 1193315)
I hate the Celtics just because Rondo is a punk who I hate more than any other player in the league. And I hate Garnett at times. I think he needs his insanity and style to be as great as he has been but he's still a punk sometimes. And although I love Pierce's game, he's such a drama queen. I'll never forget vs the Lakers when he left on a wheelchair lol. So unnecessary. I could live with a ring for any of the other 3 teams. Spurs would get their 5th with Duncan which would be sweet. I'm a huge defender of LeBron though so I'd really like him to get a ring and shut up some of the idiotic haters.

Case in point, your honor.

Dr_Rez 05-30-2012 10:38 PM

**** you heat and your 2 game lead.

anticipation 05-31-2012 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by FireWaterBurn (Post 1193352)
Eh, I'm not sure what point you are really trying to make. But Boston gets the credit they deserve. It took them 7 games and home court advantage to put away a Philly team that Miami would destroy, and they wouldn't even have to worry about the Heat if Rose doesn't tear his ACL on a freak injury because Chicago would have taken care of the Celtics in 5. Celtics are an old team who used to be great. They get the exact respect they deserve. Miami probably gets less than they deserve since LeBron is unjustly the most hated guy in the league. I can't hear another year of lame LBJ jokes, plus he deserves a ring as much as anyone. So here's a cheers to the Heat taking the trophy

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...jpg?1307463786

I forgot they give out championships because teams "deserve" them, as opposed to earning them... And LBJ definitely deserves every bit of hate, antagonism, and angry expletive hurled his way. Forever. Period.

FireWaterBurn 05-31-2012 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by anticipation (Post 1194560)

I forgot they give out championships because teams "deserve" them, as opposed to earning them... And LBJ definitely deserves every bit of hate, antagonism, and angry expletive hurled his way. Forever. Period.

Lol, teams earn rings, nobody is saying differently. And LeBron deserves one as much as anyone because he's been the best player in the league for nearly his entire career and works his ass off. We will probably not see another player like him. And if you aren't from Cleveland, stfu. The Decision backlash has to be the dumbest and most idiotic thing I've ever witnessed. LeBron is a near perfect basketball player, just enjoy it.

debaserr 05-31-2012 02:55 AM

I'd rather have Magic than LBJ if you wanna compare.

Sparky 05-31-2012 01:41 PM

I understand the bron bron hate, but when it comes down to heat vs spurs of course im gonna root for the heat, it would be wrong not to.

I wanna see them take that trophy right in front of papovichs cold dead face


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