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I could do without Kenny but I'm a huge fan of Ernie. He always calls out Barkley's BS.
Magic is terrible and so are most of the ESPN analysts. They have better play by play too but Kerr and Albert are great. |
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Speaking of that crew, I'm so amazingly glad that Jackson is gone. He did nothing but spew superlatives and cliches. I wonder who will replace him.
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"Hand down...MAN DOWN" "Thats a grown man move" Classic Mark Jackson quotes. Yeah I was wondering who will replace him. Hopefully someone who actually gives some analyzing. |
Maybe Doris Burke. I like her, she does games now and then.
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Yao Ming retires Yao has called it quits. I feel bad for the guy, I think he would have been awesome if he entered the league 10 years earlier. The evolution of the athletic big man kinda doomed him. He wasn't exactly Kevin garnett in the way he defended pick and rolls but was always a good post defender. Considering his size I think he was incredibly skilled with his footwork and shot. Sad his feet gave out on him because of his size. He did put up some good numbers through his career when he was healthy and his biggest contribution was probably his reach into the chinese market. It seems like forever ago since he played last, but I always liked Yao even though I didn't think a team could ever win a ring with him (couldnt defend on perimeter, too big for his own good). |
I contemplated Yao's career after he got injured against the Lakers a few years back. You're right, he was too big and not athletic enough. However, he never had anyone good to play with. When T-Mac is your Robin you got problems. He probably could've been the best player on a championship team if the team was kinda stacked, but he wasn't carrying anyone there.
Speaking of big men, Dwight free agency looms large. The Lakers could probably make a package for him. Here are some fun scenarios to think about: Dwight goes to: OKC for Westbrook and misc parts. With Perk / Dwight / Ibaka that's pretty formidable. Dwight entering his prime while Durant continues to blossom. Lakers for Odom / Bynum / misc. If Kobe can maintain somewhere near he has been(maybe just reduce usage and improve efficiency) while Dwight becomes dominant on the block under Pau's tutelage, wow. Chicago for Noah / Deng / misc(Taj?). I'm sure people would be lining up to play with Rose / Dwight. I doubt the Heat or Knicks have the pieces to pull off a trade. As cool as Blake / Dwight could be, big time players never choose to go to the Clips. |
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Oh man the Dwight scenarios are fun to think about. I don't think OKC would ever happen. i think that would give them too much size. You'd have KD at the 2 spot if all 3 of them were in at once, and if they rotated you'd have Perkins as a pretty expensive backup center. I think LA is probably most likely. They are never really concerned with rebuilding and it's just a matter of if they are willing to sacrifice their romance with Bynum. Dwight is the one stud who might make them pull the trigger. Kobe is still gonna go in the post and shoot his fadeaways, that will never change. But Dwight and gasol in the post would be ungodly lethal. Bulls would be the most fun fit though. I have visions of Rose to Howard transition alley-oops and a ton of steals/blocks leading to fast breaks. They are already the best defensive team and this would make them easily the best. If they could pull off a trade without giving up Deng, they'd be management gods but I don't know if that could happen. I think Deng is a really under rated guy because he can slash and play versatile defense. |
I meant those 3 as your 4/5 rotation.
As a Lakers fan I pray for a trade to work out. Slashing is overrated =P |
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I still see Lakers getting him, what do you think of Sheldon brown? My brother is a huge Mich St fan so I've been watching him for years and I liked what I saw at times this year. He seemed more confident in taking shots and being aggressive. Freak athlete, I didn't pay attention to his defense much but Lakers could sure use some guys to push the tempo once in awhile. They need to figure out what they are gonna do at point guard though for next year. I think them losing the way they did for the Mavs helps their chances at getting Howard. Even though he wouldn't have solved the problem, I think they want to shake things up and get some new blood in there. Not sure if you're being sarcastic about slashing, but yeah it is a little over rated just because so many guys cna do it. Seems like everyone has a 6 foot 7 to 6 foot 9 slasher. But I think Deng is one of the better defensive 3-men in the league and the Bulls pride themselves on defense under Thibodeau. |
OKC and Chicago have the best shot at getting Howard than the Lakers.
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Here is why OKC and Chicago have better offers. OKC: Westbrook(21yrs old), Harden(22yrs old) or Ibaka(22yrs old) but not both, plus Perkins(26yrs old) plus a 1st rounder. Bulls: Noah(22yrs old), Gibson(21yrs old),Boozer(28yrs old) plus 1st rounder. Sounds to me like they have better offers than the Lakers and a better future with younger players. Also, Howard said he doesnt want to follow Shaq's path and carve his own. He doesn't want to be labelled a Shaq-lite. Lakers have no real chance of getting him. |
No real chance? You've gotta be joking. One key element you overlooked, Perkins and Boozer are both overpayed, no one would willingly take those contracts to LOSE Dwight.
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Ok. A slim chance. The fact that the Magic will get Noah and Gibson who are very good young players is something they wouldn't taking on Boozer who isn't that old. Also, getting Westbrook and Harden is great even if they take on Perkins who is only 26yrs old. Plus, the salaries have to work out so that is the realistic chance of getting Howard. Bynum is injury prone and he will be a free agent after this season. Magic will not risk trading for Bynum unless he agrees to an extension that is gonna be less than what he will be making next season(12mil). Yes, the Lakers do have a chance, but slim one. Happy now?
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I still think you are discounting the burden that comes with the Perk/Booz contracts. The reason for trading Dwight is so they can get some nice pieces to rebuild. You don't want to acquire over-payed players to lose your best one. To make it work, the people offering would probably have to get a bit creative: like trading Guards/Forwards.
Boozer has shrunk in every big playoff series he's been in, he's too small and not tough enough. He's also making close to max. Perk is a vastly overrated player in general. He's doesn't play offense or shoot FTs. His defense is good, but who doesn't benefit from playing alongside Garnett? |
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Lakers definitely have the edge over anyone...because it's LA. And they get to the finals regularly. and they have Black Mamba. and its south cali. I think Dwight ends up a Laker. I know he said blah blah about not wanting to follow Shaq, but talk is cheap. Athletes say stuff all the time, they arent forced to be genuine in the media and hardly ever are. He might not even have a choice if he is traded anyways. If I'm the Lakers, I cut my lovefest with Andrew Bynum and do whatever it takes to get Dwight. If you can keep Dwight, Kobe, and Gasol, you can fill in parts around them and be a championship team without question |
Deep down i think Howard will go to the Nets because of DWilliams, so from a personal view, i don't see him going to either L.A, OKC, or Bulls I also think Orlando has a better shot of keeping him in Orlando than L.A getting him. I only listed those 3 teams since they had the better assets. Bottom line is that it will come down to where Howard wants to go and he already said he is not gonna play in the shadows of Shaq by going to L.A. He wants to carve his own path. Don't be surprised if the Rockets make a strong push for him with the help of Olajuwon.
p.s: don't ever think that OKC or Bulls wouldn't trade for Howard if given a chance. anytime you have a chance to get the best center assuming Orlando does put him on the market....you have to put an offer and any GM of any team knows that is their job.... Lets do a little wager on this. If Howard goes to L.A, i'll put "Eric and Dirty knows the NBA" in my signature and if he doesn't go to L.A, then the two of you have to put "Derek is the master" in your signature. :D |
No thanks, the odds on that are awful.
I don't trust the word of about 95% of athletes. Let's not forget about the other shadows that loom in LA... |
Not taking the bet Derek haah the odds aren't good for me. Lakers VS the field. I don't see him going to the Nets, but I want to see him leave Orlando to be honest. For some reason I really don't like the Magic.
I really wanted to drop by here because last night I watched "More Than A Game" which is a documentary on LeBron's high school team and childhood. It is a good watch for anyone who is a big basketball fan. Lots of home videos from the middle school and high school years and teh childhood of LeBron and his core of team mates he grew up with. Check it out on Netflix if ya got it. |
I will end this thread by saying....Dirty is gay
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Let us just end the lockout. It is ridiculous. A bunch of rich people trying to become even richer. If anything the fans should boycott games until they lower prices to games.
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CP3 to the Lakers for Odom and Gasol...
As a Lakers fan, this scares me. Goodbye unmatchable front line. If they somehow land Howard, I'd be fine =D |
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Actually the deal was at least delayed.
I have heard two stories. The owners had a fit about it and since the league owns NO at the moment they killed it. The Lakers wanted to get back some more size in the deal, since it makes them awfully small. |
I honestly don't even think that this would be a good trade for the Lakers. They'd be getting rid of two potent big men for a small, speedy power forward which will take away Kobe's limelight. The Heat have had troubles figuring out a leader, and that Lakers would too. I think Las Angeles should rethink their future. Pau Gasol should not be traded away.
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Small, speedy power forwards don't really exist. Paul is a 1 AKA Point Guard.
The Lakers will never have trouble with leadership while Kobe is around. |
Looks like the Lakers are done! No CP3 and Howard.
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Howard hasn't been spoken for quite yet.
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Mavs never should have let Chandler go. HUGE mistake.
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^ Except they replaced him with Odom, I think they'll be just fine, especially since Odom has something to prove.
I'd be more worried about the health of any one of your older guys. |
Odom was a great pick up. I was extremely disappointed with this off-season until Odom was added. But the only problem with that is, he's not a center. So there's still a huge hole there at the center position. Brendan Haywood is a great back-up, but we need another center. I'm really hoping we can pick up Samuel Dalembert. Haywood and Dalembert would make a good two-headed center.
Dirk will be fine, I'm not worried about him or Terry. Jason Kidd is another story. He is getting very old. But this is a shortened NBA season and that really plays in the Mavs' favor. I agree, though. I think we'll be ok. But I think if we want a really legit shot at winning it all again, we must get another center. If we can't get Howard, then Dalembert is our next best bet. |
The Mavs personnel sorta seem like a team that wins it once. They just aren't talented enough to repeat. Then you compound that with their collective age and things don't look so rosy.
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Even most mavs fans didn't expect them to win it all last year. I think they're a long shot to win it all again, but I'm not going to doubt them like I did last year. I think our only chance of repeating lies in picking up a solid center, like dalembert. As long as Haywood is the starter and mihimi is the only back up, were gonna struggle to be as good as last year.
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Anyone know of good online sites to watch NBA games for free? Thanks.
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Because the Mavs won it all with Tyson, so there's no reason to think they wouldn't repeat with DH playing center. He could theoretically be in a good position to win a title now, and carry on with his career however he wanted.
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