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[Wpnfire]

Originally Posted by realtalk92

He has no sense of team sportsmanship and foundation.

A big reason why Miami lost besides being a wack team is because Lebron is not a good leader.

He does not encourage his team to play better and to be better.

I just want to lol at this entire post.
One of the most unselfish players in the game with a passing ability and court awareness, on par with vintage Steve Nash, and perennially among the league leaders in assists among all small forwards and you think he's not a good leader.

Originally Posted by realtalk92

You have to build and support the players around you not always think about yourself and what you can get from something.

You HAVE to stay? Who said that you have to stay? I know the oft-quoted response to LeBron leaving is that Jordan stayed, but that's only used as a guilt-trip and nobody's ever said you have to stay. lol

Also, you are aware that LeBron resigned with the Cavs after his initial contract with them right? He gave them plenty of time but the management of the Cavs blows chunks and he got out of there once he realized he was doomed forever by staying there.

[FRED HALE SR.]

Originally Posted by realtalk92

Hopefully all the Heat bandwagoners will hush now.

Lebron is moving to another team

Wade is over

Chalmers and Battier will get traded

Bosh will probably stay

Pat Riley make them phone calls!

Lebron will go to the highest bidder and hes earned that right. Wade looks like he needs knee surgery and will probably come back just fine. Battier is inked for 3 years at 3 million a year hes not going anywhere for that cap hit. Chalmers is a cost efficient player also and will go nowhere. Bosh is inked and will stay. Pat Riley is probably thinking draft before he explores free agent options or trades.

[Wpnfire]

Originally Posted by realtalk92

Hopefully all the Heat bandwagoners will hush now.

Lebron is moving to another team

Wade is over

Chalmers and Battier will get traded

Bosh will probably stay

Pat Riley make them phone calls!

All of these statements........................

For the love of God do you have a brain??? All of these statements either don't make any sense or are just wrong.
Battier announced his retirement before the ECF and he's going to ESPN as a college analyst, Chalmer's contract, along with everybody on the team, expires this year so it's impossible for him to be traded lol, Wade had a great season this year and shot by far a career high from the field, and who the hell knows what LeBron will do.

[FRED HALE SR.]

Originally Posted by Wpnfire

All of these statements........................

For the love of God do you have a brain??? All of these statements either don't make any sense or are just wrong.
Battier announced his retirement before the ECF and he's going to ESPN as a college analyst, Chalmer's contract, along with everybody on the team, expires this year so it's impossible for him to be traded lol, Wade had a great season this year and shot by far a career high from the field, and who the hell knows what LeBron will do.

I had no idea Battier was retiring. He still has glimpses of being a decent player. I also thought Chalmers was signed for another year. I agree with you that Wade had a pretty good year. Lebron is gonna be gone to the right team.

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by Ninetales

How is this different then moving for a better employment opportunity? (its not)

It is different because we are talking about sports/teams... not a job. It's a different structure and dynamic.

Cleveland did alot for Lebron. He had been on the team since he came into the league. You are focusing more on the action instead of the principle. There is nothing wrong with him wanting to move to another team. However, it was classless the way he did it. The Cleveland owner and fans did not deserve that period.

Originally Posted by Ninetales

He doesnt owe anyone anything.

He could have at least told the owner before hand.

Your right he doesn't owe anybody anything but at least that would show he has some intergrity and sense of respect. He obviously does not which is why he received so much backlash as a result of it.

He could have told the owner and still left Cleveland. It was classless the way he left and there really are no excuses for it.

Originally Posted by Ninetales

He should stay in Miami because you say it's the right thing to do? He shouldve stayed in Cleveland because you say he shouldve? Boy what a fun linear way to look at life as if it's as easy as "but but he has to stay with one team for his whole career because of some arbitrary rules i made up".

I know what kind of "sports" mentality Lebron has so more than likely he will go to another team and go for the highest bidder. He doesn't have to listen to me lol This is just my opinion.

He does not have a good sense of sportsmanship and teamwork. He is wack because he thinks more about his self and individual contracts versus building a team and nurturing other players to win a championship. He does not want to play against the best. He wants the best on his team so he can win quick championships. Yes I think he is wack for that because Michael Jordan, Magic etc did not do that. I would NEVER mention him in the same sentence as those other great players because he does not act like it.

Originally Posted by Ninetales

Why is he obligated to make huge life decisions based on other people that dont directly affect the situation in any way? but yes im sure you are right and he is not an elite player because he hurt your feelings by being great on 2 teams. Good lord.

He didn't hurt my feelings because my babies won this year!

The Heat are overrated and the team were exposed in this series. They have alot of re building to do as a team. Lebron is not "obligated" to do anything. Nobody is obligated to do anything. However, I do look at him side ways when it comes to loyalty and team effort. He seems to care only about his self. He doesn't care about his fans, being loyal to an organization or a team. He doesn't want to build a team or support his team. I think thats troubling because that is all apart of the sport of basketball and believe it or not that is also what makes a great player. Lebron is not a leader.

Originally Posted by Ninetales

seems like you do most of the whining tbh. maybe its because youve moved in your life. do you even know about foundations???

I am not whinning. I am just expressing my opinion.

Its okay if your upset about the Spurs slaughtering Miami. There is always next year

Originally Posted by Ninetales

mj played with better players than lebron ever has

But MJ did not hop from team to team to win a championship.

In fact, it was years before MJ won a championship with the bulls. They built that team with drafts and MJ waited. MJ rallied around his team, encouraged them and supported them! He was loyal!

Lebron did not do that. Lebron should never be compared to MJ, NEVER.

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by Wpnfire

All of these statements........................

For the love of God do you have a brain??? All of these statements either don't make any sense or are just wrong.
Battier announced his retirement before the ECF and he's going to ESPN as a college analyst, Chalmer's contract, along with everybody on the team, expires this year so it's impossible for him to be traded lol, Wade had a great season this year and shot by far a career high from the field, and who the hell knows what LeBron will do.

Oh his retiring?

Good.

Also, Wade was awful. He was hurt.

I don't watch ESPN 24/7

You don't have to be snobbish and nasty

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

Lebron will go to the highest bidder and hes earned that right. Wade looks like he needs knee surgery and will probably come back just fine. Battier is inked for 3 years at 3 million a year hes not going anywhere for that cap hit. Chalmers is a cost efficient player also and will go nowhere. Bosh is inked and will stay. Pat Riley is probably thinking draft before he explores free agent options or trades.

Good points I didn't even think of.

Wade seems like a shadow of his former self. Didn't he get surgery already? Thats alot on the knee's.

Lebron will go to the higest bidder for sure

[FRED HALE SR.]

Originally Posted by realtalk92

Good points I didn't even think of.

Wade seems like a shadow of his former self. Didn't he get surgery already? Thats alot on the knee's.

Lebron will go to the higest bidder for sure

Being cost efficient is a good reason to stick in Miami. Wade has had knee problems in the past, but hes pretty good at playing through pain. He'll be fine. Lots of talk of Lebron going to the Knicks. Not really sure what to believe. I hope the Lakers can secure Kevin Love, that is my one hope in the next few years regarding signing someone.

[Ninetales]

Originally Posted by realtalk92

It is different because we are talking about sports/teams... not a job. It's a different structure and dynamic.

As much as its easy to forget, it is his job. It is his livelihood.

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by Ninetales

As much as its easy to forget, it is his job. It is his livelihood.

You're right it is his job.

What job were you trying to compare professional basketball to?

If I were to go along with what you were saying,

Don't you think you should tell your supervisor that you are leaving?

If I worked for a CEO I would tell my boss that I was quitting.

Its bad business and etiquette to not say anything and quite unprofessional.

If I wanted to get a recommendation for my new job from my old boss, he would probably not want to give me one because of the way I left.

I wouldn't want to give an employee a good recommendation, if they just decided to leave without warning. Its unprofessional

If you had any ounce of dignity and respect, you would tell your boss you were planning to leave your job especially if it was a job you had been working with for years.

Once again, there are no excuses for the way Lebron left Cleveland.