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And the Oscar Robertson comparison is fair, but the BIG O did average a triple double over a season which is one feat that will never be repeated. The NBA has never been better the athleticism just continues to grow every year. If your gonna give it up merely for rings then Bill Russell has gotta be in this conversation, the best defender ever, sorry Dennis Rodman. |
LAKERS VS MAVERICKS- LAKERS IN 5
OK CITY VS. MEMPHIS [I HOPE GET LOST SAN ANTONIO]- OK CITY BOSTON VS MIAMI- What a series- Miami in 7 ATLANTA VS CHICAGO- Chicago in 5 |
How about that DAL vs. LAL Game 1 finish? That was exciting to watch.
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Dirk is just so unstoppable, I don't think there will ever be a player like him again. It's seriously beautiful to watch him go to work with his million different moves. Phil Jackson, I love the guy but he fucked up at the end. Why on earth did he have Bynum and Gasol both in the game?? There was plenty of time left and Odom clearly has the best shot at stopping Dirk. NO WAY Gasol can play Dirk on the perimeter. It just made no sense at all to me why Phil had Bynum and Gasol both playing. Also, GREAT no-call when Kobe tripped after the Dirk foul shots. I was sure they were gonna call a foul and I probably woulda chucked my remote through my TV cause I hate when refs take over games like that. Kobe got a great look at the end too, I thought he was gonna sink it. CRAZY 2nd round so far. Thunder, Bulls, and Lakers all lose game 1 at home. |
the lakers completely choked to end that one. really painful to watch. I expect game 2 to be a blowout.
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Lakers will beat the Mavs. I think Kobe goes off for a monster game. There's no way they lose both games in LA to start the series and it means so much more to them than the Mavs. I think this series is destined for 7 games. Mavs are better than they have been the past few years. Chandler's size and athleticism really helps in the paint and Jason Kidd continues to get it done. Terry is so under rated, he has the best fast break-pull up game in the league and just turns it on when he has to. I really think the Mavs could win this series. I think Heat win game 2 too. I think their role guys feel so much more comfortable at home and it was huge for them to get the 2 seed instead of the 3. Wade and LeBron each can go off for a monster game, but I think someone like James Jones or Miller will step up to give them 20 again. The Heat have looked different in the playoffs and i think they are just feeding off all the negativity and hate they got all season. They want the ring as much as anyone. eric, what did you think about the Pierce ejection? That fuckin pissed me off. I hate how in the playoffs especially the refs blow their damn whistle anytime anything is even said. There is nothing Pierce coulda said that warranted his ejection. Cmon refs, its the fuckin playoffs. Swallow your whistles a little bit and let the big boys play. |
I picked the celtics to win game 2. they had a long layoff and they are embarrassed about g1.
kicking anyone out of the game is dumb. I really wish there wasn't a foul limit. |
Passing of the torch in the NBA?
Spurs dynasty looks about done. Lakers down 3-0, Celtics down 2-0 and both of their windows are closing. Unbelievable Lakers-Mavs game tonight. Mavericks just keep firing away. Great gameplan by Dallas all series. Instead of worrying about not being able to matchup with the Lakers bigs, they put pressure on LA to try and match up with their guards. So many shooters, they just kept firing threes. Where was Kobe tonight? Biggest game of the year and he looked tentative. He didn't want it like I thought he would. Passing the ball late without even looking for his shot. Very unaggressive game by Kobe. Can't believe Lakers are probably gonna get swept. |
well, when he has fired away to great effect in prior games against dallas, they lost. I'm guessing he received a clear message from phil: share the wealth and score efficiently. though 17pts on 50% and 6ast is hardly Kobe-like.
questioning Kobe's desire? I thought better of you. they won't be swept, but they aren't winning down 3-0. the goat here is undoubtedly Gasol. his playoff averages are something like 12-13pts and 6-7reb on 40%~ shooting. the amount of yelling matches between Pau and Phil throughout these playoffs has been astonishing. Phil usually never loses his cool, instead choosing to snidely mutter thinly-veiled slights. that and we have gotten terrible bench production. I mean, we would have had all three games if we had gotten anything from someone other than Odom. they have all been that close. every 3 they took this series I wish would've been a post-entry pass. no one can shoot consistently other than Kobe. they have never really fully utilized their advantage down low(during these last few years). they should be going to one of the three bigs on at least 70% of possessions. also, they have been little bitches on the glass throughout these playoffs. during the last few postseasons, at least two bigs had like 12+ per game. what's really strange is that LA's most consistent players these playoffs have been Kobe and BYNUM. oh well, I think they would've lost to the MoHeatos in the finals anyway... /rant PS: The Celtics haven't been the same since they dumped Perkins, and I really think it's had a huge effect on Rondo's game. the Spurs have been pretenders since Duncan stopped being an elite player(last season, hell they were swept by the Suns last year). |
I am interested to see what Shaq does tonight. I guarantee a flagrant foul out of him. His role in this series is seriously going to be knocking Wade and bron bron to the ground. I think these next few games are gonna have a lot of shoving matches, technical and flagrant fouls, and maybe some ejections.
I can't help but question Kobe's will and it's the first and most likely last time I will ever do it. But watching the end of that game, Kobe wanted no part of scoring. It wasn't like he was driving and kicking to teammates. He was passing the ball from the beginning, not even looking for his own shot. Gasol has been bad, but as usual there is always some other scapegoat and Kobe doesn't get any blame. 17 quiet points in the biggest game of the year?? 1 foul shot I think, which just shows how unaggressive he was for some reason. Props to Bynum. He would be an all-star stud on any other team and hardly gets any chances on the Lakers but he's played great. And honestly I don't think Phil has coached a great series either. |
Not looking to good for the Lakers...unless they make history id say its all over but the crying for them. Everyone around here is a Mavericks fan so its getting rubbed in that their finally winning playoff games. Usually Dirk chokes when its time for him to shine under pressure but maybe this this is the year for him and the Mavs. If the Lakers get knocked out I dont really have anyone else to cheer on to win..ill probally just hope the Heat get knocked out as well.
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goodbye lakers!!!
I thought the lakers would come out today and try to show some pride and at least win a game of the series. Not the case, they got BLWON OUT today, it was a total dismantling and the game was over so fast. Lakers proved to be sore losers. The Odom ejection was out of frustration but not over the top in my opinion. Bynum's foul and ejection was totally out of line and ridiculous. I love Bynum's game, but what an immature punk. If any of you see the play, you'd probably agree. Just no respect whatsoever and embarassment to one of the all-time great franchises. Sad way for Phil to go out and Kobe was non-existant these last two games. I think he knew it was coming to an end and really didn't play how I thought he would. Much credit to the Mavs, they built a great, deep team and had a great gameplan. Threes all day long. Good riddance LA, time for a new champion. |
I don't feel bad in the slightest about the ejections. the NBA is too soft nowadays. you are supposed to care about being down 30 in an elimination game. three players for the lakers cared today: Kobe, Bynum and Odom. they were the only consistent players throughout the playoffs too.
I can't heap a great amount of responsibility on Kobe. In the first half, he was the only one who could score(started 6-8). this led to him taking a whole lot of bad shots and trusting his teammates less, but can you blame him for that? they gave him nothing. |
:clap:congrats Mavs...Maybe they will go on to win their first title ever.
I didnt even watch the game I already knew what the outcome was going to be. Yes Kobe has the same problem Derrick Rose has in Chicago. However you cant win them all and give the Mavs their credit they swept the defending champs. Im just lost as to who I want to root for to win it all now...I like Rose ok I guess but I really dont care other than the Heat losing. I dont get into basketball as much as football so whoever does win congrats to ya. Unless its the Heat and if it does happen to be them....well maybe next year Kobe will call up Rose and Dwight Howard and come looking for revenge and another ring. |
I'm rooting for the Thunder now, but I think they are a bit too young still.
My guess is that the Heat or Mavs take it. |
Really want to see a Heat/Thunder Finals. Talk about star power... The Heat's chances of winning just went up to about 99.99999% with the Lakers out. Can't see any other team taking them.
Kobe = overrated. Always has been, always will be. |
These 2011 Playoffs are going to be remembered as a turning point in the NBA. I can easily place almost every single team into three lists.
On the Rise
To Be Seen
On the Decline
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Agreed Thom. Kobe is one of the all-time greats but the media just absolutely adores him. Game 3 Kobe didn't even look for his shot down the stretch and game 4 was just a pure blowout from the beginning and Kobe made no attempt at a run in the 2nd half. I can't believe how bad the Lakers played this series and how amazing Dallas played. It looked like the Mavs were the defending champs out there. Heat are definite favorites in my opinion, I don't see Boston beating them now with Rondo's injury. I'd love to see Thunder VS Heat. |
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As far as the Thunder... Durant and the Thunder would be a deserving squad definatley. Like I said I dont care much other than the cheats..I mean Heat not winning. Again if they do though I will give them credit for it and hope other super stars follow in the new trend as well. In relation to calling each other up and joining forces. |
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if Howard is smart he will go to OKC...
him or Paul choosing the Knicks would be a mistake. who knows how long Amar'e's knees will hold out and Melo has no idea how to be a two way player. |
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davis is a bench player at best.
rondo can't shoot but he can be a solid player with good players around him. they traded robinson to OKC, though he wasn't much of a contributer. I can see allen doing that, especially since this year was among his best ever statistically. still, the celts core is just about done contending for championships. maybe they can this year, but I still think the Heat win this particular series. |
I think the Celts could be contenders for the next 2-3 years. If KG was still in Minnesota, he might be closer to retirement, but I think playing on a perennial contender keeps the career of guys alive. They have some nice young pieces, but guys like Davis are never gonna be more than #3 or 4 options. Celtics still have some time left. As for the Spurs, they had a great year and transformed into a 3 point, fast break team. Duncna is done though. Just watching him this year, you can see how slow he is. He can barely even score on 1 on 1 matchups anymore. He's just got nothin left in the tank. Great career Timmy, time to hang em up and wait for the Hall Of Fame call.
For the Heat - Celts series, I can't believe Rondo is playing. That was a nasty dislocated elbow he got last game, and anytime he is in the game the Heat would be stupid not to pressure his right hand super hard. I don't think he'll be able to do much of anything with the left arm. KG is gonna get more touches and he was great last game. Vintage KG, scoring in the post and nailing his jumpers. Chris Bosh has gotta be a man and step up. |
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Also I forgot about that OKC trade when I made my last post. That was an extremely dumb move by Ainge to trade a vital piece like Perkins and not get some decent front court players in return. |
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Underestimate the Heat at your own risk. I've never seen a team so discounted based on public opinion as the MoHeatos. Doc is an excellent coach, but coaching can only take you so far. |
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Boston Celtics - $83,330,756 Miami Heat - $66,949,192 Yes, Doc Rivers is a great coach but the guy whines like girl. If you don't believe then just look for some of his comments against The Lakers during the pre-season and his little internet feud with Artest. |
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Also been hearing some Dwight Howard to Lakers rumors. :yikes: Sounds like a package of Odom, Bynum, and maybe something else could get him :yikes: |
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Heat looked impressive tonight. Close game throughout but the big dogs came out in the 4th and overtime. Garnett was awful tonight. Some nights he looks like vintage KG (game 3) and other nights he looks like an old man with tired legs (tonight). Heat have this series now, there's no way Boston wins. |
I love how The Heat 'dig deep' when one of our starting 5 has no arm, due to the opposing team playing filthier than the Italians in the World Cup. The Celtics are not comprehensible to clowns who listten to sports radio.
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Plus, I'm pretty sure Rondo in malingering. There's no way his elbow was dislocated, maybe sprained, but dislocated? Have you ever seen what that looks like? Quit blaming the problems of your city's teams on the media, people don't like Boston teams (Celtics, Patriots) because they are whiny, entitled douchebags. Look at guys like Paul Pierce and Keving Garnett, how can anyone like those guys? They're the type of men that gossip about other NBA players while geting their pedicures. Don't even get me started on Tom Brady... |
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I'm not a Boston hater. In football I'm a loyal Falcons fan but I like Brady and the Pats despire living in the heart of Steeler nation where everyone hates them. I don't even hate the Celtics but their fans are just delusional sometimes. They bought their team just as much as the Heat did. Both teams brought in two star players to become great teams.
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Amazing night of hoops, first with the Heat overtime win on the road, then the Thunder win on the road in triple overtime. Insane game, the Thunder were getting smoked early, then had leads late and Memphis hit 2 ridiuclous threes to take it into triple OT. Thunder had the 2 best players on the court though and got the job done. Thunder are in total control now, all they gotta do is win on their home floor.
I'm wondering if the Lakers are gonna panic now and trade some guys. Magic are gonna do their best to convince Dwight all off-season that he should stay. Only if he is definitely leaving would they trade him. But the Lakers still have years left at title runs, they are a lot younger than the Celtics. Kobe is past his prime but still has game and they have the best set of bigs in the NBA. They need a PG though, Fisher works with what he's got but this is a guards league and Lakers need some athletes. If they even consider getting rid of Gasol or Bynum for a second (unless it involved Dwight) they are idiots. -Also, that Rondo injury was brutal. I know Paul Pierce faked an injury a couple years back in the finals (because he always fakes and is a drama whore) but Rondo's dislocation was legit. I don't cringe much at hoops injuries. Only thing worse was Shaun Livingston's leg injury a few years back (google at own risk) |
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