NBA thread

[Paul Smeenus]

While the NHL revenue is the lowest of the four, it's not *that* far behind the NBA, which is hardly "in a league of it's own"

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*edit: I composed this before your edit, you clearly saw the same data

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

The NBA has had some of its lowest ratings in the past decade regarding The Finals. Check the Nielsen ratings.

And regarding the Hall of famers on one team. The Lakers have five from their 85 squad. Jamaal Wilkes, Bob Mcadoo, Kareem, Magic, and James Worthy. You also failed to mention Dennis Johnson and Nate Tiny Archibald for the Celtics squads which would put them at five hall of famers on one team also. But hey those are just facts that cannot be disputed.

Also if you want to include Pat Riley and KC Jones then you've reached six hall of famers for both teams. I'm done here.

Thanks! You know your NBA history!

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

I think it was indicative of the times in the 70's. One there was alot less people in general and having lived in that era as a boy people spent alot less time watching tv in general back then. I think there was certainly a great talent pool in the 70's which saw an influx of monster athletes with guys like Dr J, David Thompson, and George Gervin. I however agree with you that todays talent pool is almost freakish. You have so much more size and ability in the 3-5 players and its very evident when you go and look back at the way the game was played back then.

I'd say the Celtics were equally as stacked as the Lakers and the early 80's sixer squads with Moses Malone, Barkley, Toney, and Mo Cheeks weren't far behind. I believe the reason there aren't squads like that now are just due to the huge change in salary caps.

Thanks!!!

I think the way ball players are drafted as well has affected that too. Before they did not have to attend at least one year of college and now players do before they get drafted.

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

Wait so what are you arguing for? After Payton's monologue the writer defends the current NBA with a pretty strong argument. No disrespect to Payton either - I love both eras of the NBA. This era is more finesse and athleticism, the previous era was all about being a badass. Both are plenty entertaining for me!

They are more athletic now but they are more lazier and they don't have a teamwork ethic mentality anymore. They jump from team to team and don't have a sense of loyalty for their team or coaches because they care about the money. Basketball players get paid way to much money compared to the 70s, 80s and even 90s.

[Paul Smeenus]

Originally Posted by realtalk92

more lazier

Fail.

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

These aren't opinions. You're just plain wrong. The last straw was when you said Dwyane Wade is not a hall of famer. You have no credibility. Everyone here is laughing at you. Dwyane Wade will be a first-ballot Hall of Famer, no question. He is a legend.

Here's some plain old stats for you:

Player A Career Stats:
13.3 ppg, 10.5 rpg, 3.4 assists, 0.8 steals, 2.2 blocks

Player A Awards and Accomplishments:
2x NBA Champion
1x NBA Finals MVP
1x NBA MVP
2x All Star


Player B Career Stats:
19.3 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 2.0 assists, 0.8 steals, 1.1 blocks

Player B Awards and Accomplishments:
2x NBA Champion
8x All Star

Player A is Bill Walton. He was a shoo-in for the Hall of Fame. Player B, who has very similar stats, is Chris Bosh.

Are you really calling Wade a legend??? I think that is a MAJOR exaggeration and I think far to soon to determine.

I don't care if everyone is laughing at me as you say lol I don't make my opinions for people or to be liked. I express myself because that is how I feel regardless if you agree or disagree with it...period.

What does awards and stats have to do with MY opinion? I didn't trash Wade and I even said he was a good ball player. I just don't think he is a legend based off of what I have seen. When I think of legends I think of Magic or MJ. No I dont consider him to be in that category.

For instance, Lebron is hailed as Jesus Christ in the NBA but I think he is incredibly overrated and I think it is insulting how they constantly compare him to MJ especially with all the gimmicks he had to do in order to get his championships. I also don't think he knows how to finish strong when it comes to finals or games. He chokes alot.

Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

You've also claimed that the Spurs-Heat finals were rigged. Did you even ****ing watch the series? The Spurs WOULD HAVE WON if Manu Ginobli OR Kawhi Leonard HAD MADE THEIR FREE THROWS in game 6 before the classic Ray Allen three yada yada yada. They also likely would have won if Tim Duncan had made a simple bunny hop out of the post like he's done 3,000,000 times in his career in game 7. So are you seriously going to try and tell me that David Stern called up Manu and Kawhi and paid them off to miss their free throws? Did the refs force Tim Duncan to miss his bunny hop? You really need to stop posting. Just because you clearly like to hate on the Heat and their players doesn't mean they didn't win their championship fair and square.

Of course I watched it!

I am not going to give my opinion on something before looking at it for myself!

And what is your problem? Why are you so angry? lol Its not that serious hun. All the name calling and cussing lol its not that serious... here is a kiss muah, feel better!


The San Antionio Spurs are my favorite team in the NBA. I've loved them since I was a little girl. I loved them when Bowen, Jackson and Robinson were on the team. I have always loved the Spurs. It is a very good organization and a very talented and humble group of men.

I was really upset this summer when they lost. I was so upset I was in tears lol which is why I vowed to never watch the NBA ever again. lol I get to emotional with basketball especially with the Spurs.

I felt that The Spurs played better overall throughout the Series. They were suppose to win in Game 6 and they were leading the entire game and I am not sure what happened in the last 5 seconds. I think some calls should have been made that weren't.

For instance:

Why didn't Ray Allen get called for fouling Mano when he drove to the basketball?

Why didn't Bosh get a call for fouling Green when he went to shoot that 3 pointer?

Just things like that that wasn't fair and calls that were clearly ignored.

Popovich is a great coach but the ONLY wrong thing he did in that game was taking Tim out during the last few minutes of the game. If he had not taken Tim out of the game, Tim could have easily rebounded the ball and that would have prevented Bosh from passing it to Ray and him hitting that lucky shot.

It was all luck, bad calls and the stars being aligned as for why they won lol. They did not deserve to win that game or the championship.

[YorkeDaddy]

Originally Posted by realtalk92

They are more athletic now but they are more lazier and they don't have a teamwork ethic mentality anymore. They jump from team to team and don't have a sense of loyalty for their team or coaches because they care about the money. Basketball players get paid way to much money compared to the 70s, 80s and even 90s.

What the hell are you even talking about like holy ****. Dwyane Wade, Dirk Nowitzki, Kobe Bryant, Tim Duncan...all LEGENDS that have never chamged teams. Just because Dwight Howard jumps around you chacterize the entire NBA? Kareem moved teams. Karl Malone moved teams. Plenty of stars in the 80s and 90s moved teams.

If the Spurs deserved their championship they wouldve hit their damn free throws or Duncan wouldve made that easy as hell shot. You clearly cant take off your hater glasses and realize the SPURS choked and that Dwyane Wade is one of the greatest ever. Im not sure why youre still commenting here.

What does awards and stats have to do with MY opinion?

Lol

Ignorance at its finest. Facts>opinions. I cant believe your lack of education and basic understanding of how debates work.

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus

Fail.

You don't think the amount of money affects the way they play?

Oh it most certainly does!

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

What the hell are you even talking about like holy ****. Dwyane Wade, Dirk Nowitzki, Kobe Bryant, Tim Duncan...all LEGENDS that have never chamged teams. Just because Dwight Howard jumps around you chacterize the entire NBA? Kareem moved teams. Karl Malone moved teams. Plenty of stars in the 80s and 90s moved teams.

I am talking about for the mass majority as an overall league. I am not talking about for those few exceptions. You know just as well as I do that players jump from team to team more than what they have in previous eras.

[Paul Smeenus]

Originally Posted by realtalk92

You don't think the amount of money affects the way they play?

Oh it most certainly does!

No, I was talking about use of the English language.

Originally Posted by realtalk92

more lazier

It would either be "lazier" or "more lazy"