NBA thread

[Soulflower]

Originally Posted by butthead aka 216

> makes hilariously outrageous claims
> gets called out for makin false claims
> gets angry ppl called her out on bs
> repeats claims again



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There is wayyyy more talent in the nba now. Its not even close

LOL

I am not angry just calling it what it is.

If you think I am making false claims, thats fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

But you really think calling someone an "ignorant fool" is respectful?

That is not respectful. You don't call people out their name just because you disagree with them.

[YorkeDaddy]

Originally Posted by realtalk92

LOL

I am not angry just calling it what it is.

If you think I am making false claims, thats fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

But you really think calling someone an "ignorant fool" is respectful?

That is not respectful. You don't call people out their name just because you disagree with them.

These aren't opinions. You're just plain wrong. The last straw was when you said Dwyane Wade is not a hall of famer. You have no credibility. Everyone here is laughing at you. Dwyane Wade will be a first-ballot Hall of Famer, no question. He is a legend.

Here's some plain old stats for you:

Player A Career Stats:
13.3 ppg, 10.5 rpg, 3.4 assists, 0.8 steals, 2.2 blocks

Player A Awards and Accomplishments:
2x NBA Champion
1x NBA Finals MVP
1x NBA MVP
2x All Star


Player B Career Stats:
19.3 ppg, 8.8 rpg, 2.0 assists, 0.8 steals, 1.1 blocks

Player B Awards and Accomplishments:
2x NBA Champion
8x All Star

Player A is Bill Walton. He was a shoo-in for the Hall of Fame. Player B, who has very similar stats, is Chris Bosh.

You've also claimed that the Spurs-Heat finals were rigged. Did you even ****ing watch the series? The Spurs WOULD HAVE WON if Manu Ginobli OR Kawhi Leonard HAD MADE THEIR FREE THROWS in game 6 before the classic Ray Allen three yada yada yada. They also likely would have won if Tim Duncan had made a simple bunny hop out of the post like he's done 3,000,000 times in his career in game 7. So are you seriously going to try and tell me that David Stern called up Manu and Kawhi and paid them off to miss their free throws? Did the refs force Tim Duncan to miss his bunny hop? You really need to stop posting. Just because you clearly like to hate on the Heat and their players doesn't mean they didn't win their championship fair and square.

[FRED HALE SR.]

Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

Im not even speaking from opinion right now...everything you said is LITERALLY factually incorrect.

Based on ratings? The NBA's ratings have been absolutely fantastic for the past decade. The NBA's ratings were AWFUL in the 70's and only started to pick up in the 80's when Bird and Magic were having their epic finals showdowns.

Six hall of famers on one team? Please point me in the direction of that team. I'm having trouble thinking of any team with even 4. There were definitely teams with 3 hall of famers though, namely Larry Bird, Robert Parish and Kevin McHale. But there are teams like that nowadays too, with LeBron, Wade, and Bosh all definitely potential HoFers.

The NBA has had some of its lowest ratings in the past decade regarding The Finals. Check the Nielsen ratings.

And regarding the Hall of famers on one team. The Lakers have five from their 85 squad. Jamaal Wilkes, Bob Mcadoo, Kareem, Magic, and James Worthy. You also failed to mention Dennis Johnson and Nate Tiny Archibald for the Celtics squads which would put them at five hall of famers on one team also. But hey those are just facts that cannot be disputed.

Also if you want to include Pat Riley and KC Jones then you've reached six hall of famers for both teams. I'm done here.

[YorkeDaddy]

Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

The NBA has had some of its lowest ratings in the past decade regarding The Finals. Check the Nielsen ratings.

And regarding the Hall of famers on one team. The Lakers have five from their 85 squad. Jamaal Wilkes, Bob Mcadoo, Kareem, Magic, and James Worthy. You also failed to mention Dennis Johnson and Nate Tiny Archibald for the Celtics squads which would put them at five hall of famers on one team also. But hey those are just facts that cannot be disputed.

Also if you want to include Pat Riley and KC Jones then you've reached six hall of famers for both teams. I'm done here.

The ratings for the Finals have topped 10 million every year. The golden 70's supposedly that our sports expert realtalk was referring to never got close to 10 million. Now if we're comparing to Jordan's era then yes, ratings were sky-high then. Jordan started a boom in the NBA's popularity.

Fair enough on that Lakers squad. One of the best teams to ever hit the floor together.

Doesnt change the fact that there are several recent teams that have loaded up on hall of famers. LeBron/Wade/Bosh/Allen, Kobe/Nash/Howard/Gasol (although that obviously failed), Garnett/Pierce/Allen, Nowitzki/Kidd/Carter

[FRED HALE SR.]

Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

The ratings for the Finals have topped 10 million every year. The golden 70's supposedly that our sports expert realtalk was referring to never got close to 10 million. Now if we're comparing to Jordan's era then yes, ratings were sky-high then. Jordan started a boom in the NBA's popularity.

Fair enough on that Lakers squad. One of the best teams to ever hit the floor together.

I think it was indicative of the times in the 70's. One there was alot less people in general and having lived in that era as a boy people spent alot less time watching tv in general back then. I think there was certainly a great talent pool in the 70's which saw an influx of monster athletes with guys like Dr J, David Thompson, and George Gervin. I however agree with you that todays talent pool is almost freakish. You have so much more size and ability in the 3-5 players and its very evident when you go and look back at the way the game was played back then.

I'd say the Celtics were equally as stacked as the Lakers and the early 80's sixer squads with Moses Malone, Barkley, Toney, and Mo Cheeks weren't far behind. I believe the reason there aren't squads like that now are just due to the huge change in salary caps.

[YorkeDaddy]

Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

I think it was indicative of the times in the 70's. One there was alot less people in general and having lived in that era as a boy people spent alot less time watching tv in general back then. I think there was certainly a great talent pool in the 70's which saw an influx of monster athletes with guys like Dr J, David Thompson, and George Gervin. I however agree with you that todays talent pool is almost freakish. You have so much more size and ability in the 3-5 players and its very evident when you go and look back at the way the game was played back then.

I'd say the Celtics were equally as stacked as the Lakers and the early 80's sixer squads with Moses Malone, Barkley, Toney, and Mo Cheeks weren't far behind. I believe the reason there aren't squads like that now are just due to the huge change in salary caps.

Which is why Wilt Chamberlain happened, forever screwing up several records that just can't ever be broken. He averaged like 50 and 25 one year (i dont feel like looking it up tbh lol) it was just silly. No one will ever break the single game points or rebounds records because of how silly the NBA was then

[Paul Smeenus]

The Glove on the soft NBA

[YorkeDaddy]

Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus

The Glove on the soft NBA

Wait so what are you arguing for? After Payton's monologue the writer defends the current NBA with a pretty strong argument. No disrespect to Payton either - I love both eras of the NBA. This era is more finesse and athleticism, the previous era was all about being a badass. Both are plenty entertaining for me!

[FRED HALE SR.]

Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

Which is why Wilt Chamberlain happened, forever screwing up several records that just can't ever be broken. He averaged like 50 and 25 one year (i dont feel like looking it up tbh lol) it was just silly. No one will ever break the single game points or rebounds records because of how silly the NBA was then

Yeah Wilt the Stilt didn't have alot of challenge in shattering records. Bill Russell as great as he was could only beat him on the strength of his team. The more atrocious stat was Oscar Robertson averaging a triple double over an entire season. The Big O was awesome but you could grab any big guard in todays nba with plus skills and he would go back in time and do exactly the same thing due to the disparity in skill level. If someone chooses to look back to yesteryear and contemplate that the skill level was on par they're out of their mind.

[YorkeDaddy]

The strange thing to me is that there ARE still rough and tough badass teams in today's NBA yet people still try and dwell on the "soft" argument. Go watch the Pacers play the Heat and try and tell me the Pacers dont remind you at least a little bit of the bad boy Pistons. Not saying these Pacers compare necessarily, but its a similar style of basketball.