^ Played at his funeral no less.

Yep. When it's the man with the best music taste ever has it played at his funeral, you know it's gotta be good.

i had no idea.....going to look into them today

i agree...i think i need to listen to The Undertones a bit more before an "official" vote.....

i think if you were to look up a definition for the genre "neofolk" Death In June would be on the first front lines (pun intended :) )

As for the current poll, I voted for The Undertones but honestly... I don't see either of those songs representing pop punk. I actually thought Blink 182 (although painfully mainstream and occasionally gag inducing) were a better fit because Pop Punk seems to be a more 90s/early 2000s phenomenon. A band like Green Day or Paramore also seem like obvious choices, but I also had in mind Guttermouth or Pennywise - whom I consider to have quite a bit more weight on the credibility side.

Idk, to me... having a band from the early years of punk to represent pop punk just doesn't seem to fit.

i can see your point....i honestly feel tat 'Dude Ranch' is a good representation of what would become "mainstream" pop punk....

at the same time i feel respect is due :)...and after listening to both songs/albums i went with The Undertones...mainly because as an influence i feel they represent a wider spectrum

As for this dilemma - whether pop-punk should be represented by one of the earlier bands or more recent, I always give the edge to the originators, especially when a certain style has become so generic now, like pop-punk. If I would like to introduce someone to pop-punk (and that's kinda point of this compilation, as I understood) I would certainly rather play The Undertones and The Ramones instead of Blink 182 or whatever, even though their music may have not been called pop-punk in those days. With all the changes punk has been going through, it's pop-punk now. That's how I see it.

I can definetly see your point of view, but in the same vein it probably wouldn't be effective to put Proto-Punk, like Iggy Pop, as the definition of punk rock. Sure it was what originated it, but it still had a lot of stylistic development to go through before it got to it's most reconizable form. I'm just saying since pop-punk really peaked in the 90s, maybe that'd the era of it that should be represented.

No, no I would never put Iggy Pop as the definition of punk-rock. When I say originators I don't mean only influences, I mean the original intent of a certain style or genre. I guess it all boils down to this: Is pop-punk to be regarded as a strict genre (like in the 90s) or as more melodic tendencies of punk-rock?

The Ramones simply weren't "pop punk" when they came onto the scene. For their era, they were PUNK.

I agree with Conan that something from Dude Ranch or Dookie best represents pop punk since it peaked in popularity in the 1990s. 'Welcome to Paradise' is a perfect balance of pop and punk...

I really don't think The Ramones sound has aged well. I thought that song was awful. The Undertones track wasn't very good either, but much better than The Ramones's song...