The Ultimate Compilation I

+81 · 09-26-2010, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Violent & Funky

Sorry, I haven't been online in a few days.

Even if Japanther is a good example of noise pop, 'Radical Businessman' is a poor representation from their catalog. I was just trying to pick songs that are on youtube, otherwise I would have gone for the poppier '$100 Cover', which is the essence of noise pop in my mind.

However, I think No Age has some excellent examples of noise pop too. But I haven't hear that song, +81, because I only have Nouns.

I hate to suggest a cliche choice from Nouns, but I think 'Eraser' is a picture-perfect example of noise pop. Thoughts?

I personally wouldn't go with Eraser. While I love it and would say it falls into the noise pop category, I don't think it's the best track to describe the genre. Just doesn't encompass enough of the noise element for me.

My only concern with this project as a whole is people picking things that are a part of the genre but not necessarily the most accurate to describing the genre as a whole, of course everyone has different ideas about this so voting is really the only way to go. For the example of noise rock, sure The Jesus Lizard are quite know as a noise rock band but in comparison to bands that embrace noise a lot more (e.g. AIDS Wolf, Mindflayer, Arab on Radar) The Jesus Lizard are more so a 'noisey rock band', which may be a bit misleading to those getting their first taste of the genre (point of the comp, is it not?).

Just some thoughts. Again, a lot of that boils down to personal opinion.

Violent & Funky · 09-26-2010, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by +81

I personally wouldn't go with Eraser. While I love it and would say it falls into the noise pop category, I don't think it's the best track to describe the genre. Just doesn't encompass enough of the noise element for me.

My only concern with this project as a whole is people picking things that are a part of the genre but not necessarily the most accurate to describing the genre as a whole, of course everyone has different ideas about this so voting is really the only way to go. For the example of noise rock, sure The Jesus Lizard are quite know as a noise rock band but in comparison to bands that embrace noise a lot more (e.g. AIDS Wolf, Mindflayer, Arab on Radar) The Jesus Lizard are more so a 'noisey rock band', which may be a bit misleading to those getting their first taste of the genre (point of the comp, is it not?).

Just some thoughts. Again, a lot of that boils down to personal opinion.

I mean it is noise POP and noise ROCK and not just "noise." Maybe those bands should get their own "noise" genre?

+81 · 09-26-2010, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Violent & Funky

I mean it is noise POP and noise ROCK and not just "noise." Maybe those bands should get their own "noise" genre?

Like what? They're still pop/rock bands too.

~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 09-26-2010, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by +81

My only concern with this project as a whole is people picking things that are a part of the genre but not necessarily the most accurate to describing the genre as a whole, of course everyone has different ideas about this so voting is really the only way to go. For the example of noise rock, sure The Jesus Lizard are quite know as a noise rock band but in comparison to bands that embrace noise a lot more (e.g. AIDS Wolf, Mindflayer, Arab on Radar) The Jesus Lizard are more so a 'noisey rock band', which may be a bit misleading to those getting their first taste of the genre (point of the comp, is it not?).

This is a very legit point of concern. There are only two ways to get the most accurate description of what constitues a genre. 1) The artist themselves. What they or their record label describe themselves as is likely accurate. 2) Majority rule. Aka voting. Likewise, there are 2 ways to know if a work really defines that particular genre. 1) Historical record. If it's something like Robert Johnson's Cross Road Blues for Delta Blues, or Mudhoney for grunge, or Miley Cyrus for Manufactored Pop, obviously it's a good way to define that style. With the smaller offshoots and genres, however, it's often hard to tell and open to a lot of interpretation. So 2) Majority Rule, aka voting is the most effective.

For these reasons, I've created this area here.

This is far too time consuming for every single genre. However, as has happened already, if there is some dispute about what should represent a genre effectively (less so what constitues a genre), take your discussions there. The reason I'm seperating them is because it's becoming very cluttered and difficult to process submissions through this thread. So, henceforth, if you think something poorly represents a style, discuss it there, maybe bother a mod to add a poll every now and then, and report back here with the new track and a bolded notification: REPLACE, for my sake, so it's easier to process.

From now on, please use this thread only to suggest songs. Write ups and info are still welcomed!