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View Poll Results: Who's better?
Motown 18 46.15%
Stax 21 53.85%
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Old 07-04-2009, 09:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Motown had some greats, thats for sure, but I too feel that Stax has the edge. I find Stax to be a little less smiley and a little more gritty and I like that about them.
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I went with Motown, I don't think they overproduced, the horns and strings really did suit a lot of their songs, and they had many many great session musicians including James Jamerson, the greatest rock bassist of all time.

Overall, Motown had more artists that I'm into. Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Temptations, Jackson 5.

Otis Redding and Booker T & The MGs are great. But I've never been too big on Isaac Hayes and Rufus Thomas, even though they're very much considered royalty down here in Memphis territory.

I like that each had their own unique approach, Stax's was raw and gritty, Motown's was pomp and razzle dazzle.

Knowing me, it's no surprise that I prefer the latter.
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Old 07-04-2009, 04:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The two empires of R&B music.

So, which do you think produced the most great music overall?

Let's see.

Motown:
The Temptations
Marvin Gaye
Stevie Wonder
Diana Ross & The Supremes
Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
The Four Tops
Martha & The Vendettas
Jackson 5
Gladys Knight & The Pips


Stax:
Otis Redding
Sam and Dave
Rufus Thomas
Isaac Hayes
Wilson Pickett
Albert King
The Staple Singers
Booker T & The MGs

I live close to Memphis so you might think I'm partial to Stax. But I just gotta go with Motown.
I thought about this for ten minutes, and I just can't make up my mind.

Both are literally awesome at the exact same levels, though Otis Redding very nearly seals it for Stax.
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Old 02-01-2010, 03:34 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I voted Stax.

Motown had some true visionaries, including Marvin and Stevie (Before the Soft Pop that many only know him for now...), and the Soul of it's best moments has a serious Cool. Still, despite having music that moved and singers that were powerful, there was still a bit of a showbiz that crept in by the Late 60's that killed off most of it's effect for me. No dismissing how Gordy ran things, though, although the move to LA in '72 seriously turned things for the worse despite having some major highlights.

Stax had a Soul that really hit, and Booker T and the MGs were among the first to break barriers while being stars and not just a backing band while Otis Redding and Sam and Dave had an intense style. As for the Post-Atlantic days, there's plenty of classics with Issac Hayes beyond "Shaft" that make him stand out as a visionary as well as many fine tracks by The Staple Singers, Johnny Taylor, and The Bar-Kays that stand out as solid examples of Soul and Funk that move.

Sadly, however, Stax as a business was for the most part in tough waters after their fateful parting with Atlantic as a Distributor who wound up with their Pre-1968 masters. Still, even with the failures which later marked their original demise by the Mid-70's, it had some good moments while trying to broaden the range of music it presented, even if some of it went little heard in it's day due to the obvious distribution problems. With the intense feelings running in Memphis after the assassination of Dr. King and the (In retrospect, understandable) defecting of some of it's major talent at the time (Booker went to LA, for example), the Soul that it was best with only grew in boldness, and it's Wattstax festival was both a good thought-provoking event and a fine promotional powerhouse for the label (that was, of course, until trouble struck with the Distribution deal with CBS shortly after the the finalization of the deal, setting off the rest of the mess that wound up in a sad place by '75).

With it's releases of Soul, Funk, and Gospel, Stax stayed very close to it's fanbase even if times were troubled on the business side and some of the releases trying too hard to reach the market CBS was more comfortable distributing to (Just thinking of some of their albums of 74/75 can make a true fan cry...Mike Douglas? How about Lina Zavaroni? Or, get this, Morton Downey, Jr.?). Forgetting all of the side steps that never could have worked, their final days at least introduced Richard Pryor to the Comedy album market and had a few standout tracks like Shirley Brown's "Woman to Woman," among many great highlights, many that were not promoted well the first time around, but still remain easy to find in the digital age to remind how the Soul and Funk of Stax holds up very well.

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Have to go with Stax, motown was good, but Stax brought the funky soul of the 70's.
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Booker T & The MG's are so damn good and have that raw edge that I prefer. Stax for me but only just. I nearly bought a Stax label T shirt on Saturday too. Spooky.
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So many good acts on both labels. You've got Gladys Knight & the Pips, Stevie Wonder, the Elgins, the Supremes, the Commodores and of course Marv on Motown, but on the other hand I'm a massive fan of Sam & Dave, Wilson Pickett, Isaac Hayes, Otis Redding and Booker T too.

More songs that I hate have come out on Motown though, so Stax edges it.
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Here's something I want to share. It's a perfect example of the inner workings of Motown.
Not just the Funk Brothers but, the whole package.
The musicianship is simply breathtaking. For me this is what Motown were all about.
Fascinating insight (the music, not the opening dialogue);



Edit: You'll have to double click to see/hear the vid.
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Here's something I want to share. It's a perfect example of the inner workings of Motown.
Not just the Funk Brothers but, the whole package.
The musicianship is simply breathtaking. For me this is what Motown were all about.
Fascinating insight (the music, not the opening dialogue);



Edit: You'll have to double click to see/hear the vid.

I know the difference between motown and stax now. Motown has the songs I pretend not to enjoy with every fibre of my being:



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I know the difference between motown and stax now. Motown has the songs I pretend not to enjoy with every fibre of my being:



Not a convincing argument
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