How long was it before you started writing your own music?

Fixums · 02-12-2014, 09:28 PM

Hey all,
Was just hoping to get some personal experiences here. How long did you learn/practice others' music before you went on to writing and making your own stuff? I haven't been playing long. Been teaching myself guitar and drums for a few months with books and the internet. My "grandiose" goal is to be able to write some of my own stuff, and perform/record it. I just feel like I'm unable to make that leap from looking up tabs/chords and learning them to coming up with my own stuff. Any advice? How long did it take before you were able to come up with your own drum beats or guitar chords/riffs? Love to hear peoples experiences.
Thanks!

YorkeDaddy · 02-13-2014, 09:22 AM

I've always been especially artistic. I didnt learn other people's stuff for very long, maybe a year before I met with my buddy and started weiting our own stuff. I don't really learn songs at all anymore, I just write constantly.

Plankton · 02-13-2014, 09:36 AM

A couple years worth of playing Maiden, Dio, Rush, Sabbath, Ozzy (Randy, and Jake), then I was off to the races. Although I wouldn't consider my earlier stuff to have any type of solid song structuring, it was just noodling around, but I always had the same noodles, and that laid the foundation for what I do now 30 years later.

There really is no magic milestone, as everyone is clearly different in their understanding of how they see fit to put a song together. Diligent practice, and studying others works is probably the best advice I could give you. Pick your favorite song apart. Dissect it. Try to understand "Why" you like it, then take that knowledge and mold it into something new .

Alice in Chains · 02-13-2014, 05:53 PM

I don't really write songs anymore. I used to when I was little but realized I could say more with poetry. That and nobody really understood my esoteric themes. With poetry, no one has to.

Moss · 02-13-2014, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Alice in Chains

I don't really write songs anymore. I used to when I was little but realized I could say more with poetry. That and nobody really understood my esoteric themes. With poetry, no one has to.

Isnt a song often just poetry put to music?

Black Francis · 02-14-2014, 05:14 AM

How long? like 3yrs after i first started to play in a Nirvana cover band i started as a drummer but after like 2 yrs i switched to the guitar and the year after i started writing and making songs

i would advice you to start writing songs right away because at the beginning they are not gonna be very good it's a learning process just like playing an instrument so the sooner you start the better

Also i would suggest to find a good lyricist within the bands you like cause before you learn how to do it you have to see how it's done then you'll get a basic sense of how to structure song lyrics

But the first step you should already be doing is start writing! you'll see your songs will gradually get better and the more you write the quicker you'll find your own voice

Alice in Chains · 02-14-2014, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Moss

Isnt a song often just poetry put to music?

Are you trying to make me laugh?

Necromancer · 02-15-2014, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Alice in Chains

I don't really write songs anymore. I used to when I was little but realized I could say more with poetry. That and nobody really understood my esoteric themes. With poetry, no one has to.

As a songwriter poetry could turn out to be a blessing in disguise to have poetry in order to pull lines from here and there when writing music. Of course it might be harder to add a full (coherent) embodied meaning to the song using this technique. One could possibly be in surprise at how well it actually works out sometimes.

Psychedub Dude · 02-15-2014, 11:26 PM

A lot of learning (guitar) for me was just jamming and getting a feel for chord transitions and stuff. As soon as I could play a few different chords though I remember just jamming and messing around which eventually lead to the first song I ever wrote.

I definitely learned a few simple tunes before that though. I think it's essential to learn at least a few songs before you start writing. Getting a feel for structure is important. Even if it's a four chord song. The first song I learned was Horse With No Name and that's only two chords haha

And as a side note I love covering songs. I still do a lot of covers I'm always down to learn more of my favorite songs. I think it's a show of respect for the artist. It's also nice to take a break from writiing and its always fun be able to play your favorite jams.

Alice in Chains · 02-16-2014, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Necromancer

As a songwriter poetry could turn out to be a blessing in disguise to have poetry in order to pull lines from here and there when writing music. Of course it might be harder to add a full (coherent) embodied meaning to the song using this technique. One could possibly be in surprise at how well it actually works out sometimes.

A good point made, indeed. My poetry, though, would sound pretty dumb. That, and I can't play any instruments anymore so I'd be stuck with a couple of acapella songs.

02-12-2014, 09:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
Fixums Groupie Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 3	How long was it before you started writing your own music? Hey all, Was just hoping to get some personal experiences here. How long did you learn/practice others' music before you went on to writing and making your own stuff? I haven't been playing long. Been teaching myself guitar and drums for a few months with books and the internet. My "grandiose" goal is to be able to write some of my own stuff, and perform/record it. I just feel like I'm unable to make that leap from looking up tabs/chords and learning them to coming up with my own stuff. Any advice? How long did it take before you were able to come up with your own drum beats or guitar chords/riffs? Love to hear peoples experiences. Thanks!

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Plankton Just Keep Swimming... Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: See signature... Posts: 7,765	A couple years worth of playing Maiden, Dio, Rush, Sabbath, Ozzy (Randy, and Jake), then I was off to the races. Although I wouldn't consider my earlier stuff to have any type of solid song structuring, it was just noodling around, but I always had the same noodles, and that laid the foundation for what I do now 30 years later. There really is no magic milestone, as everyone is clearly different in their understanding of how they see fit to put a song together. Diligent practice, and studying others works is probably the best advice I could give you. Pick your favorite song apart. Dissect it. Try to understand "Why" you like it, then take that knowledge and mold it into something new . __________________ See location...

02-14-2014, 05:14 AM	#6 (permalink)
Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	How long? like 3yrs after i first started to play in a Nirvana cover band i started as a drummer but after like 2 yrs i switched to the guitar and the year after i started writing and making songs i would advice you to start writing songs right away because at the beginning they are not gonna be very good it's a learning process just like playing an instrument so the sooner you start the better Also i would suggest to find a good lyricist within the bands you like cause before you learn how to do it you have to see how it's done then you'll get a basic sense of how to structure song lyrics But the first step you should already be doing is start writing! you'll see your songs will gradually get better and the more you write the quicker you'll find your own voice __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

02-15-2014, 11:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
Psychedub Dude Nowhere Man Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: In a champagne supernova in the sky Posts: 662	A lot of learning (guitar) for me was just jamming and getting a feel for chord transitions and stuff. As soon as I could play a few different chords though I remember just jamming and messing around which eventually lead to the first song I ever wrote. I definitely learned a few simple tunes before that though. I think it's essential to learn at least a few songs before you start writing. Getting a feel for structure is important. Even if it's a four chord song. The first song I learned was Horse With No Name and that's only two chords haha And as a side note I love covering songs. I still do a lot of covers I'm always down to learn more of my favorite songs. I think it's a show of respect for the artist. It's also nice to take a break from writiing and its always fun be able to play your favorite jams. __________________ There is only one beer left Rappers screaming all in our ears like we're deaf Tempt me, do a number on the label Eat up all their MC's and drink 'em under the table [B]Last.fm Shadows Of Our Souls Last edited by Psychedub Dude; 02-15-2014 at 11:33 PM.