Stone Birds

oh... ok.

i should change the band name:

Mosaic For __________ (Larks doesn't roll off the tongue very well

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Kool_Dude_HaMeR

Mosaic For Minds
Mosaic For Me
Mosaic For Music
Mosaic For Mangled Members
Mosaic For Mice
Mosaic For Microscopes
Mosaic Kiosk
?????????????????????????

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cavanherk

M B Mosaic?

Stone Birds

it doesn't need to start with an "M".

I put Mosaic For Wolves.

I understand what you mean, but that would be like we're a band limited to musicbanter, like how Orbit Rap is limited to orbit's gum. sorry.

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Kamikazi Kat

I recorded a quick drum beat, I will record more when I have time. I'll glady record drums for anything that some post as it is somewhat hard to record drums for a song when I have no idea what the song is like, the sructure, ect. But if anybody wants to start with the drums, heres something:

Drum Beat 1

Give me some suggestions of what you like to hear, anything that might give me a better idea of what you are looking for. Also, post any download links to parts of the songs here, so anybody can participate. I don't have a myspace account or anything and I'm sure there are other people that don't too so I think its best to get things done here. Even if you don't intend to use my drumming, I'd still like to partcipate, its good experience and practice.

Stone Birds

i'll see.

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Kamikazi Kat

2 more drum beats:

Drum beat 2
Drum Beat 3

On the second one, I forgot to cut out the last few minutes where I'm just playing random stuff and I don't feel like cutting it out and re-uploading it. There is still about 4 good minutes of just the beat on there though. If you wait until the very end you get to hear me cough!!

Freebase Dali

Alright you guys, you're seriously lacking organization with this. This won't get off the ground until a solid plan is laid out that everyone can understand and agree on. I've done a lot of collaboration on music in the past, as I am a producer, and there are some things to consider:

1. Everyone needs to be on the same page. If you want this to get off the ground, the people involved have to be working toward the same goal. Right now, the goal is so vague that all the details involved in getting there are not even laid out completely and you already have people probably working on music to contribute. Think of it this way: An orchestra needs their sheet music so they're all playing the same song. Otherwise, it's just a bunch of noise. (Or experimental music)
That sheet music should be in the form of clearly laid out collaboration project guidelines. It's not hard rules, but it will go a long way in helping your collaboration have any kind of productivity.

2. Depending on how you set up the collaboration, you need a few people with specific duties per collaboration project:
- Dedicated mixing/mastering person
- Dedicated editing/composing person
- Dedicated file management person
- And of course, your music contributors
It doesn't matter if the mixing/mastering guy also does the editing/composing, and even the file management. The idea is that all the music pieces that are contributed to the project are looked over and made sonically/structurally compatible with the song as a whole, by the same individual(s).
Depending on the style of collaboration, there may or may not be a need for a file management person.

What's also important to understand is that you can treat the collaboration as a PROJECT, which can be one of many future projects set up in different ways. After completing a project and starting a new one, you may find that things work better doing things in a slightly different way and with different contributors.
The goal of rotating collaboration projects is to find the setup that works best so you'll have something productive to stick with.


I just wanted to let you guys know that if you want this to succeed in even the completion of a decent song, there's a lot of thought that goes into coordinating effort in these kinds of logistics and numbers of participants.

If you guys agree with what I'm saying and want me to write out a draft for collaborative guidelines and resources, let me know. Otherwise, I won't waste the effort.

Thanks,
J.

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Kamikazi Kat

I agree that we lack organization. So far all I've seen is people talking about what instrument we are going to record first and what the name of the project is going to be. The name is far from important right now, and talking about what instrument to record is far to vague of a question to ask right now, especially since nobody has any idea what we are actually recording.

The reason I'm contributing a few things is just to get some sort of start, maybe other people will follow suit and contribute their own pieces. At the very least its going to show that somebody out there is willing to put forth the effort to record.

Tommorow, I'm going to try and record a drum track over the bass line I posted a few pages back, to make sure everything can work out for me in terms of recording and that I don't run into any crippling problems. I've recorded before, but I'm new to recording the drums and I still need to figure out a good way to record them over another track. My computer is too far away from my drum set for me to just use headphones so I can listen to track while recording over it with guitar or bass. The only solution I can come up with is playing the track out of a cd player and recording, then syncing up the 2 tracks afterwards, which I can just tell is going to generate problems. Another way is using my laptop. It would be easy since its portable, but the sound card on it is much lower quality then my desktop and results in crap sound, especially for drums. If anybody has any good ideas on how I can do this, I'm listening.

Stone Birds

there wasn't much else for me to do.
as you've both said this lacks organization.
also experimental music is noise.

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