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VEGANGELICA · 06-12-2009, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Trauma

I liked Dichotomy.
What genre is your band, specifically rock, or a subgenre, like punk?

Hi again, Trauma!
I'm glad to hear you liked Dichotomy. That's actually one of our (spouse Paul's and my) favorites, because it is based on issues and situations with which we are personally familiar here in the MidWest.

I'm not well-versed in band genres, but I would say (based on what I've read about genres in order to answer your question

) that our genre is "Folk Revival Rock." From what I've read, Folk Revival music was revived Folk music of the 60s and 70s (revived from folk music that was popular before it died out during the U.S. anti-communist, anti-liberal McCarthy era) in which folk artists attempted to communicate concerns for peace and global injustices (which, of course, is what we are trying to do in Vegangelica).

I find I love to write about ironic situations...and I have sat and listened many more times than I wish to people ask for the food to be "blessed" while I stare at some dead turkey or roast pig or cow. I think "Dichotomy" captures my anger and sadness over this needless killing fairly well.

Thanks for asking about our genre. It made me consider and learn more about what genre we actually are! --Erica

Stone Birds · 06-12-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA

Hi, Stone Birds,
After I finished "Windmill" I was reading back through more of your song lyrics and came to your "Hallowed Birds" song (at least that's the name I've given it). I thought it was interesting how your song (being metaphorical) could appear to be about a related topic (birds flying, dying, falling like a rock, returning in May...as a thrush does, returning in spring during migration), but obviously is metaphorical and represents something completely different.

I thought the ending of your song, "I have feathers on my spine, cause I don't follow the line," was especially meaningful and intriguing. In my song, "you" (the individual the song is about) actually *are* a bird and thus really do have feathers on the spine. Plus, while this may not be how you view the last lines of your song, I relate to being someone with "feathers on my spine" because I don't follow the line (by which I mean the typical way people view non-human animals), and so I do sometimes feel rather like a different animal (a bird of a different feather...since birds of a feather are supposed to "flock together," and I do not flock with the majority of humanity, given my vegan views).

Is your song the one you wrote that relates best to your "Stone Birds" name? I ask because it involves the metaphor of a bird trying to fly but falling like a rock. It sounds as if many of your songs deal with finding peace even with death around you. I am curious what your song means to you. I should probably be asking this over in *your* collection!
--Erica

nope, "Feathers On My Spine" was written first
also Hallowed (not hollowed) means holy

VEGANGELICA · 06-15-2009, 12:49 PM

Hello, All,
This weekend I wrote the following short song while thinking of people I've known and loved who have struggled with substance abuse. I was trying to figure out a guitar part for some lyrics I wrote a couple of weeks ago, when I got diverted by several chords and ended up with "Free." This is the shortest songs I've ever written. Perhaps I shall contrast it with one of my 7-minute song lyrics next time!

I first had as part of the chorus, "Stand naked with me," until I googled that phrase and found it was used in some well-known song and so I had to try to find a replacement. So, no nudity in the song. I tried, but couldn't include it. Sorry! Also, while I cringe at the triteness of rhyming "bear" and "care," etc., I was at least happy to have "cigarette" and "yet," even if I contorted a line to get it! --Erica

"Music Rating System" rating for "Free" is FL for "Friendship and Love." (Yes, Xxaawxsugarxx, that notification is for you)

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“Free” Lyrics by Erica

I’m waiting, hoping you’ll shed the cross you bear.
I’m wishing, yearning you’ll treat yourself with care.
Take from your lovely mouth that cigarette.
Put down your glass. I don’t want to lose you yet.

I’m waiting, hoping you’ll treasure that you live.
I’m wishing, yearning you’ll take the love I give.
Let your pain out when you feel it’s no use.
Don’t turn it inward in self-abuse.

Stand wingless with me.
Let yourself be free.

I’m waiting, hoping you’ll come to the door.
I’m wishing you’ll see life offers you more.
Breathe out those burdens. Inhale the sunset sky.
Walk the horizon line. Find a natural high.

Stand wingless with me.
Let yourself be free.

I’m waiting, hoping you’ll take the gift I bring.
It’s free and it’s yours. I don’t want anything.
When life drags you down, please give yourself a choice.
I’ll listen. We’ll shoot the breeze. Just use your voice.

Stand wingless with me.
Let yourself be free.

Arya Stark · 06-15-2009, 04:04 PM

"Inhale the sunset sky" is a wonderful line.

You know how I feel about rhyming. x.X

I tried, though, I really did. I tried to read it without being distracted. T.T I like what it stands for.

VEGANGELICA · 06-15-2009, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by xxawwxsugarxx

"Inhale the sunset sky" is a wonderful line.

You know how I feel about rhyming. x.X

I tried, though, I really did. I tried to read it without being distracted. T.T I like what it stands for.

Hi, Xxawwxsugarxx,
Please tell me more about rhyming and the downside of it, as you see it? Is it distracting because your mind focuses in on the rhymes and they take precedence over the meaning...which I understand can happen, especially when someone is foolish enough as to rhyme "care" with "bear"? As you surely know by now, I'm rather fond of rhyming. It gives a song some rhythm and a soothing sense of timing.

Thanks for trying to read "Free" through without being distracted, though. I appreciate the effort.

Say, I rather liked "inhale the sunset sky," too! I was on a quest to inject drug-related words into the song (couldn't get "inject" in there; and used "breathe out" instead of exhale). Did you notice? Nicotine (obviously)

, "glass" (slang term for meth; and alcohol use, of course), "wings" (drug slang for heroine), "line" (of cocaine), "drag" (as on a marijuana joint), "bear" (as in "great bear," or fentanyl), "shoot the breeze" (nitrous oxide)...except I mean it in its original meaning...which is to talk, and finally "use" (your voice instead of drugs). I was feeling rather clever to have crammed all that into a tiny song, and one that rhymes, too!
-- Erica
P.S. I also adore alliteration!

Stone Birds · 06-15-2009, 05:19 PM

Song Inspiration Thread
please try this, also i like how you're writing songs that aren't so grim.

Arya Stark · 06-15-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by VEGANGELICA

Hi, Xxawwxsugarxx,
Please tell me more about rhyming and the downside of it, as you see it? Is it distracting because your mind focuses in on the rhymes and they take precedence over the meaning...which I understand can happen, especially when someone is foolish enough as to rhyme "care" with "bear"? As you surely know by now, I'm rather fond of rhyming. It gives a song some rhythm and a soothing sense of timing.

Thanks for trying to read "Free" through without being distracted, though. I appreciate the effort.

Say, I rather liked "inhale the sunset sky," too! I was on a quest to inject drug-related words into the song (couldn't get "inject" in there; and used "breathe out" instead of exhale). Did you notice? Nicotine (obviously)

, "glass" (slang term for meth; and alcohol use, of course), "wings" (drug slang for heroine), "line" (of cocaine), "drag" (as on a marijuana joint), "bear" (as in "great bear," or fentanyl), "shoot the breeze" (nitrous oxide)...except I mean it in its original meaning...which is to talk, and finally "use" (your voice instead of drugs). I was feeling rather clever to have crammed all that into a tiny song, and one that rhymes, too!
-- Erica
P.S. I also adore alliteration!

Actually, I feel horrible that I didn't notice that at all. x.X I think the reason I can't read rhymes is because I automatically associate rhyming with childhood, so if someone's writing a song about death, for instance, I can't connect it well in my mind. Except of course, 'Ring Around the Rosie'... but that rhyme is just creepy. And the fact that little children play that... *shivers*

Anyway, that's my rhyming rant (alliteration)

Don't let me get in your way though, write on. (no pun intended) ^_^

The Abominable Homan · 06-15-2009, 10:19 PM

I really liked Dichotomy as well. I'm not personally a vegetarian/vegan, but I thought it was well written.

Keep it up, these seem pretty above average and actually fairly interesting to read.

Rickenbacker · 06-16-2009, 01:11 AM

"I" is an obnoxious, pretentious piece of vegan drivel, the likes of which piss me off to no end.

*Eats some veal*

Trauma · 06-16-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rickenbacker

"I" is an obnoxious, pretentious piece of vegan drivel, the likes of which piss me off to no end.

Dictionary.com

Pretentious: Claiming or demanding a position of distinction or merit, especially when unjustified.
Obnoxious: Annoying or objectionable due to being a showoff or attracting undue attention to oneself
Drivel: Childish, silly, or meaningless talk or thinking

I don't understand how "I" is pretentious: it's not calling individuals who aren't vegans out for not being vegans or claiming to be superior to those who aren't vegans.
It's also not obnoxious: the poem/song is posted in a collection of a vegan songwriter's works, it's not attempting to be self-righteous or attract attention to the songwriter in an annoying manner.

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Originally Posted by Rickenbacker

*Eats some veal*

Acting out *eats some veal* is supposed to be what, funny?
Funny in a hating animals and thinking that you're superior to vegans sort of way, right?
Is this statement not obnoxious, pretentious, and childish?

06-15-2009, 12:49 PM	#23 (permalink)
VEGANGELICA Facilitator Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Where people kill 30 million pigs per year Posts: 2,014	"FREE" lyrics Hello, All, This weekend I wrote the following short song while thinking of people I've known and loved who have struggled with substance abuse. I was trying to figure out a guitar part for some lyrics I wrote a couple of weeks ago, when I got diverted by several chords and ended up with "Free." This is the shortest songs I've ever written. Perhaps I shall contrast it with one of my 7-minute song lyrics next time! I first had as part of the chorus, "Stand naked with me," until I googled that phrase and found it was used in some well-known song and so I had to try to find a replacement. So, no nudity in the song. I tried, but couldn't include it. Sorry! Also, while I cringe at the triteness of rhyming "bear" and "care," etc., I was at least happy to have "cigarette" and "yet," even if I contorted a line to get it! --Erica "Music Rating System" rating for "Free" is FL for "Friendship and Love." (Yes, Xxaawxsugarxx, that notification is for you). ************************************* “Free*” Lyrics by Erica I’m waiting, hoping you’ll shed the cross you bear. I’m wishing, yearning you’ll treat yourself with care. Take from your lovely mouth that cigarette. Put down your glass. I don’t want to lose you yet. I’m waiting, hoping you’ll treasure that you live. I’m wishing, yearning you’ll take the love I give. Let your pain out when you feel it’s no use. Don’t turn it inward in self-abuse. Stand wingless with me. Let yourself be free. I’m waiting, hoping you’ll come to the door. I’m wishing you’ll see life offers you more. Breathe out those burdens. Inhale the sunset sky. Walk the horizon line. Find a natural high. Stand wingless with me. Let yourself be free. I’m waiting, hoping you’ll take the gift I bring. It’s free and it’s yours. I don’t want anything. When life drags you down, please give yourself a choice. I’ll listen. We’ll shoot the breeze. Just use your voice. Stand wingless with me. Let yourself be free. Last edited by VEGANGELICA; 07-09-2009 at 03:00 PM.*

06-15-2009, 05:19 PM	#26 (permalink)
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06-16-2009, 01:11 AM	#29 (permalink)
Rickenbacker / Join Date: May 2009 Location: The Conn Posts: 1,338	"I" is an obnoxious, pretentious piece of vegan drivel, the likes of which piss me off to no end. Eats some veal __________________ last.fm rym Talk About the Passion - R.E.M.'s Discography Reviewed

06-15-2009, 10:19 PM	#28 (permalink)
The Abominable Homan Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 281	I really liked Dichotomy as well. I'm not personally a vegetarian/vegan, but I thought it was well written. Keep it up, these seem pretty above average and actually fairly interesting to read.