Jesus Christ I'm Amazing - The poetic updates of a madman

TheBig3 · 10-21-2005, 05:53 PM

Does stairway to heaven have one? im really asking here, im trying to remeber, and what constitues a refrain? Does Bohemian Rhapsody? Iron Man?

adidasss · 10-21-2005, 06:05 PM

i guess i just like simetry in songs...as in everything in life...i'm strange that way

xim_betting_im_notx · 10-21-2005, 06:24 PM

Songs without refrains seem kind of unfinished to me

blackTshirt · 10-22-2005, 04:46 AM

well.. you could have like a riff that repeats every now and then and that could be your chorus... all songs have that. almost all of them, anyway.. the words can change all the time, but there's that sound that keeps repeating

letbobrest · 10-23-2005, 07:16 AM

In stairway the "and it makes me wonder" kind of constitutes a refrain and Rhapsody gets by because right the way through its such an amazing song. But yeah, if you cant think of a refrain then generally your screwed

letbobrest · 10-23-2005, 07:17 AM

and can som1 tell me why my picture never appears after my posts or can i just not see it because its mine????????

letbobrest · 10-23-2005, 07:20 AM

basically anything marylin manson has ever written, sang or covered

From Cosmic Left Feild... · 10-23-2005, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DontRunMeOver

What's with all of the dots? Do you keep drifting in and out of conciousness?

LOL

riseagainstrocks · 10-23-2005, 11:59 AM

you have to have 50 post. stop asking that question

DontRunMeOver · 10-24-2005, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

So Im writing this song and the refrain is a bitch (as always) to come up with. What are your opinions of refrains, or songs without them? Let me hear your thoughts, and if you know any, let me know.

The refrain shouldn't be that hard to come up with. Repetition and simplicity are generally key in writing good refrains - which is pretty unexciting from the writer and performer's viewpoints but will result in the song sounding better. If you come up with some unique hook lyrics, melodic intervals and rhythmic motifs then you'll be part way there.

The best approach is probably to get a few basic ideas together and them play them each to a few friends. The refrain tune which has your audience jumping off their seats is the one that you want to use!

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10-21-2005, 05:53 PM	#51 (permalink)
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10-21-2005, 06:24 PM	#53 (permalink)
xim_betting_im_notx Groupie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The middle of somewhere Posts: 5	Songs without refrains seem kind of unfinished to me __________________ Somehow the right thing to say just won't come out. * If you let me have my way I swear I'll tear you apart. * I need you like water in my lungs.

10-22-2005, 04:46 AM	#54 (permalink)
blackTshirt The Randomness Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: romania.. shut up Posts: 854	well.. you could have like a riff that repeats every now and then and that could be your chorus... all songs have that. almost all of them, anyway.. the words can change all the time, but there's that sound that keeps repeating __________________ My rims never spin, to the contrary You'll find that they're quite stationary.

10-23-2005, 07:16 AM	#55 (permalink)
letbobrest Groupie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: leprechaun land Posts: 19	In stairway the "and it makes me wonder" kind of constitutes a refrain and Rhapsody gets by because right the way through its such an amazing song. But yeah, if you cant think of a refrain then generally your screwed __________________ I push my fingers into my eyes.

10-23-2005, 07:17 AM	#56 (permalink)
letbobrest Groupie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: leprechaun land Posts: 19	and can som1 tell me why my picture never appears after my posts or can i just not see it because its mine???????? __________________ I push my fingers into my eyes.

10-23-2005, 07:20 AM	#57 (permalink)
letbobrest Groupie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: leprechaun land Posts: 19	basically anything marylin manson has ever written, sang or covered __________________ I push my fingers into my eyes.

10-23-2005, 11:59 AM	#59 (permalink)
riseagainstrocks Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DC Posts: 3,320	you have to have 50 post. stop asking that question __________________ One note timeless, came out of nowhere...