A Slightly Manic Monday

~~TheUsedToolguy~~ · 03-03-2007, 11:10 PM

dangit loser, you already know I like you so let's stop convoluting their thread w/ these posts

Kevorkian Logic · 03-04-2007, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Loser

Ok I got a headache from reading this thread, this is for writing poems or songs not talking about philosophy and such make a thread in the longe I'm tired of reading pages of crap.

their is a poem/song in the beginning, that we discuss. I just think we have a different definition of crap. You think philosophy, psychology, and advanced literature is crap. I think how you spend your entire life whining about how unloved and unlucky you are is crap. Because honestly, I bet your life is great, but you are one of those attention whores that purposely makes his life hell, because you enjoy complaining.

ItsRed · 03-04-2007, 06:03 PM

I just got around to reading your reply , then all the following replies...

I'm still kind of dazed from going out last night (and it's almost 4 p.m. now (dehydrated, mostly)) and I am going to jam in about an hour. There's lots to respond to in your last reply, but I'll try and send the ultra-personal stuff through email tomorrow.
I don't know if you got my last email, but it's true the 'getting sick of my own voice.' I thought about it before going out last night and came to the conclusion that it's how in both writing and lyrics I'm trying to say something of import that I get sick of. Like every little utterance is significant.

But I should get over it. And this week should be mellower, as far as time constraints. If I get back before 8 p.m. I might log back in. Saw you have a new work, but I need to get going, at least put some pants on (it's 4pm for crying out loud) and get things packed up for the jam.

Kevorkian Logic · 03-04-2007, 08:32 PM

did you get my emails though? Gmail just kept saying "sending...." The never saying sent made me doubt that the emails were being sent.

I'm glad this week should be mellower. You sound like you need and deserve a break.

I'll start checking my email now (I usually only check it once every 2 or 3 weeks, pretty pathetic, I know)

ItsRed · 03-05-2007, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevorkian Logic

So yea, that's my slightly unhappy past, I really don't like to think about it too much though. I mean I am happy now, so why bother dwelling?

Exactly, I remember one thing that made a fair impression on me from Alfred Adler about 'self-ideal.' Pretty much trying to fix your past is only going to provide a negligible benefit in a best case scenario. He said a person would be much more psychologically healthy to see themselves in a desirable future than try and resolve past problems.
Sure I have some issues with it, but it does seem important to feeling 'well' that people have some place they want to go in their future.

I never did get any emails, except the first.

An ammusing short read for the summer --
The Saddest Summer of Samuel S. (J.P. Donleavy)

Kevorkian Logic · 03-06-2007, 04:17 PM

What issues do you have with the Adler theory? Sounds pretty decent to me, well in the scheme of theories at least.

I'm really frustrated about this email thing, I literally tried to send them like 6 times each. I'm going to try again. I really wish you would of gotten the emails though. They had hours of good typing in them.

Oh, out of curiosity, if you read Huck Finn. Did you find the end of Huck Finn bothersome?

ItsRed · 03-06-2007, 10:21 PM

Some firewall/ security software will prevent sending files. Are they Word attachments, or image files?

It'd be really nice to see and I really appreciate your effort. I tried to convert a story yesterday called 'Teez (Hungarian 'ten,' not a cute spelling of 'tease')' and deleted the whole text in some autosave mishap. errrrrgh. I may have it on my flash drive.
It's pretty funny and I hope to send it soon.

You know how I said I was going to have some time.... well.... probably within hours of that I got every weekend in March and two in April filled up. Mostly good stuff though, but I want to be lazzzzy.

The issues with Alder, with really most any high idealist, is they get hot on one idea and get too focused on one idea as a panacea, to the point of fallacy. I think having/ imagining a desirable future is healthy and provides a stability that makes one more resistant to having depression/mania/psychosis triggered. As well, another benefit, it can make one more accepting of sacrifice/deprivation in the present. But what it neglects to understand is the multiple nature of the psyche engaged in an active environment, it assumes a fairly static/ vacuum self and environment. I don't know if that makes much sense, but without a range of understanding it can have some whiplash effect with reality. I do think it's much more healthy and rewarding than brooding over the past via psychoanalyst techniques of Freud (et al).

I got a big yap,
yap, yap, yap

Oh yea, I've scanned my memory about Huck Finn and there are bits and pieces of stories and film that come to mind, but I don't know if I read it. I'll need to refresh.

03-04-2007, 06:03 PM	#53 (permalink)
ItsRed Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 48	I just got around to reading your reply , then all the following replies... I'm still kind of dazed from going out last night (and it's almost 4 p.m. now (dehydrated, mostly)) and I am going to jam in about an hour. There's lots to respond to in your last reply, but I'll try and send the ultra-personal stuff through email tomorrow. I don't know if you got my last email, but it's true the 'getting sick of my own voice.' I thought about it before going out last night and came to the conclusion that it's how in both writing and lyrics I'm trying to say something of import that I get sick of. Like every little utterance is significant. But I should get over it. And this week should be mellower, as far as time constraints. If I get back before 8 p.m. I might log back in. Saw you have a new work, but I need to get going, at least put some pants on (it's 4pm for crying out loud) and get things packed up for the jam. __________________ Dark Circle : They're here. Rocking your black night world since 2007. http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/bands/7789/

03-04-2007, 08:32 PM	#54 (permalink)
Kevorkian Logic Imperfectly Perfect Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,290	did you get my emails though? Gmail just kept saying "sending...." The never saying sent made me doubt that the emails were being sent. I'm glad this week should be mellower. You sound like you need and deserve a break. I'll start checking my email now (I usually only check it once every 2 or 3 weeks, pretty pathetic, I know) __________________ "it is only through a limitless accumulation of the imperfect that a certain type of perfection can be attained"

03-06-2007, 04:17 PM	#56 (permalink)
Kevorkian Logic Imperfectly Perfect Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,290	What issues do you have with the Adler theory? Sounds pretty decent to me, well in the scheme of theories at least. I'm really frustrated about this email thing, I literally tried to send them like 6 times each. I'm going to try again. I really wish you would of gotten the emails though. They had hours of good typing in them. Oh, out of curiosity, if you read Huck Finn. Did you find the end of Huck Finn bothersome? __________________ "it is only through a limitless accumulation of the imperfect that a certain type of perfection can be attained"

03-06-2007, 10:21 PM	#57 (permalink)
ItsRed Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 48	Some firewall/ security software will prevent sending files. Are they Word attachments, or image files? It'd be really nice to see and I really appreciate your effort. I tried to convert a story yesterday called 'Teez (Hungarian 'ten,' not a cute spelling of 'tease')' and deleted the whole text in some autosave mishap. errrrrgh. I may have it on my flash drive. It's pretty funny and I hope to send it soon. You know how I said I was going to have some time.... well.... probably within hours of that I got every weekend in March and two in April filled up. Mostly good stuff though, but I want to be lazzzzy. The issues with Alder, with really most any high idealist, is they get hot on one idea and get too focused on one idea as a panacea, to the point of fallacy. I think having/ imagining a desirable future is healthy and provides a stability that makes one more resistant to having depression/mania/psychosis triggered. As well, another benefit, it can make one more accepting of sacrifice/deprivation in the present. But what it neglects to understand is the multiple nature of the psyche engaged in an active environment, it assumes a fairly static/ vacuum self and environment. I don't know if that makes much sense, but without a range of understanding it can have some whiplash effect with reality. I do think it's much more healthy and rewarding than brooding over the past via psychoanalyst techniques of Freud (et al). I got a big yap, yap, yap, yap Oh yea, I've scanned my memory about Huck Finn and there are bits and pieces of stories and film that come to mind, but I don't know if I read it. I'll need to refresh. __________________ Dark Circle : They're here. Rocking your black night world since 2007. http://www.unsignedbandweb.com/music/bands/7789/

03-03-2007, 11:10 PM	#51 (permalink)
~~TheUsedToolguy~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Joplin, MO Posts: 468	dangit loser, you already know I like you so let's stop convoluting their thread w/ these posts