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Sneer 02-11-2007 06:09 PM

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i expect criticism for this, its not my natural style but i want to broaden my approach.

You sat, stark, no remorse
And I felt a tinge of panic scatter
Through this weathered frame
This mangled brain
And still you sat, nothing, stark.

A flurry of tears, dimming lights
A cacophony of silence
Baited breaths, snatched from the
Shores of a rapid flow
And still you sat, stark

Numbing hate, ice cold
Brazen fear, eclipsed by the
Tenures of scornful eye
In murky air
You sit, stark, reviled.

sleepy jack 02-11-2007 06:12 PM

Its pretty, but kind of trite, it doesn't have much substance.

Sneer 02-11-2007 06:16 PM

as in what? it lacks description, metaphor? meaning?

sleepy jack 02-11-2007 06:18 PM

Meaning, I think you need to add another verse or something that gets more indepth on it.

Sneer 02-11-2007 06:19 PM

lol, that post probably sounded really arseish, i meant 'meaning?' as in does it lack meaning? i'll work on another verse or two.

PaperHurricanesAndPlanes 02-11-2007 09:43 PM

A flurry of tears, dimming lights
A cacophony of silence
Baited breaths, snatched from the
Shores of a rapid flow
^ The only part I can truly say I enjoyed reading. The rest was boring, trite, and needs more meaning, as Ethan said. Your word choice, aside from the part I pasted, wasn't that great either, particularly verse one. Less commas.

Strummer521 02-11-2007 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 335259)
A cacophony of silence

Only Wilde can pull off a blatant paradox. It stands out, and my mind goes "that can't happen" then realizes it's intentional, but is still annoyed.

Sneer 02-12-2007 06:50 AM

^ how can you say 'only wilde can pull off a blatant paradox'? many poets have utilised it to great effect, im thinking gray, tennyson, healy and ****inson in particular. in fact, its a pretty common feature in poetry i say. i just obviously, in your opinion, didnt use it very well in this instance.

PaperHurricanesAndPlanes 02-12-2007 01:31 PM

I thought the cacophony of silence line was the best here.

Crowe 02-12-2007 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 335528)
^ how can you say 'only wilde can pull off a blatant paradox'? many poets have utilised it to great effect, im thinking gray, tennyson, healy and ****inson in particular. in fact, its a pretty common feature in poetry i say. i just obviously, in your opinion, didnt use it very well in this instance.

Strummer actually said something similarly generalizing in my song thread. ("If you don't want to be a bit subtle, it might make sense to write prose").

What's the deal Strumstrum? You seem to think only in blacks and whites.

Strummer521 02-12-2007 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowe (Post 335605)
What's the deal Strumstrum? You seem to think only in blacks and whites.

I was exaggerating. Just using an example (and choosing Wilde because He seems to be most noted for that characteristic out of all writers, and is considered a paradox himself) to say that the paradox is difficult to pull off, and it seemed to disrupt my mind from the general flow of the poem because it registered as conspicuous and was very distracting. It seemed like something just added because he liked the fact that he knew the word "cacophony" and wanted to use it. The idea of silence being loud is a bit tired to me, and good vocabulary words don't enhance its level of poetic quality.

Sneer 02-12-2007 05:27 PM

i said at the start this was an experimentation, repetition and paradox is something i do not use enough and i was trying to introduce both into this poem. i didnt use 'cacophony' just for the fact its a good word, i used it because it described the situation i was in at the time, the silence was deafening and creating an absolute tumult in my head. Its something i distinctly remember about the situation. Nevertheless, i appreciate your points.

skindredluver 02-12-2007 06:05 PM

Its good but you should use more descriptive words!But I shouldnt be the one to say cause I suck

Strummer521 02-12-2007 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 335633)
i said at the start this was an experimentation, repetition and paradox is something i do not use enough and i was trying to introduce both into this poem. i didnt use 'cacophony' just for the fact its a good word, i used it because it described the situation i was in at the time, the silence was deafening and creating an absolute tumult in my head. Its something i distinctly remember about the situation. Nevertheless, i appreciate your points.

I'm not trying to be a jerk, by the way. I have a hard time offering honest feedback that attempts to make a clear and logical point without offending people at the same time.

Sneer 02-12-2007 06:33 PM

never thought you was, as i said, i appreciate the posts. You cant improve on something unless you know what to improve on. id say exactly the same thing if you wrote a substandard piece.

Strummer521 02-12-2007 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu (Post 335665)
never thought you was, as i said, i appreciate the posts. You cant improve on something unless you know what to improve on. id say exactly the same thing if you wrote a substandard piece.

Ok. Because people seem to get very sensitive sometimes and so I wonder if they really want feedback. Good to know you can take it. And of course, you don't have to agree with it.

Crowe 02-12-2007 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Strummer521 (Post 335670)
Ok. Because people seem to get very sensitive sometimes and so I wonder if they really want feedback. Good to know you can take it. And of course, you don't have to agree with it.

I have to apologize for being kind of defensive with you, I couldn't tell if you were just trying to act intelligent or actually were, it seems you are the latter.


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