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Sneer · 02-12-2007, 06:50 AM

^ how can you say 'only wilde can pull off a blatant paradox'? many poets have utilised it to great effect, im thinking gray, tennyson, healy and ****inson in particular. in fact, its a pretty common feature in poetry i say. i just obviously, in your opinion, didnt use it very well in this instance.

Crowe · 02-12-2007, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

^ how can you say 'only wilde can pull off a blatant paradox'? many poets have utilised it to great effect, im thinking gray, tennyson, healy and ****inson in particular. in fact, its a pretty common feature in poetry i say. i just obviously, in your opinion, didnt use it very well in this instance.

Strummer actually said something similarly generalizing in my song thread. ("If you don't want to be a bit subtle, it might make sense to write prose").

What's the deal Strumstrum? You seem to think only in blacks and whites.

Strummer521 · 02-12-2007, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowe

What's the deal Strumstrum? You seem to think only in blacks and whites.

I was exaggerating. Just using an example (and choosing Wilde because He seems to be most noted for that characteristic out of all writers, and is considered a paradox himself) to say that the paradox is difficult to pull off, and it seemed to disrupt my mind from the general flow of the poem because it registered as conspicuous and was very distracting. It seemed like something just added because he liked the fact that he knew the word "cacophony" and wanted to use it. The idea of silence being loud is a bit tired to me, and good vocabulary words don't enhance its level of poetic quality.

Sneer · 02-12-2007, 05:27 PM

i said at the start this was an experimentation, repetition and paradox is something i do not use enough and i was trying to introduce both into this poem. i didnt use 'cacophony' just for the fact its a good word, i used it because it described the situation i was in at the time, the silence was deafening and creating an absolute tumult in my head. Its something i distinctly remember about the situation. Nevertheless, i appreciate your points.

Strummer521 · 02-12-2007, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

i said at the start this was an experimentation, repetition and paradox is something i do not use enough and i was trying to introduce both into this poem. i didnt use 'cacophony' just for the fact its a good word, i used it because it described the situation i was in at the time, the silence was deafening and creating an absolute tumult in my head. Its something i distinctly remember about the situation. Nevertheless, i appreciate your points.

I'm not trying to be a jerk, by the way. I have a hard time offering honest feedback that attempts to make a clear and logical point without offending people at the same time.

Sneer · 02-12-2007, 06:33 PM

never thought you was, as i said, i appreciate the posts. You cant improve on something unless you know what to improve on. id say exactly the same thing if you wrote a substandard piece.

Strummer521 · 02-12-2007, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu

never thought you was, as i said, i appreciate the posts. You cant improve on something unless you know what to improve on. id say exactly the same thing if you wrote a substandard piece.

Ok. Because people seem to get very sensitive sometimes and so I wonder if they really want feedback. Good to know you can take it. And of course, you don't have to agree with it.

02-12-2007, 06:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,397	^ how can you say 'only wilde can pull off a blatant paradox'? many poets have utilised it to great effect, im thinking gray, tennyson, healy and **inson in particular. in fact, its a pretty common feature in poetry i say. i just obviously, in your opinion, didnt use it very well in this instance. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show**

02-12-2007, 05:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,397	i said at the start this was an experimentation, repetition and paradox is something i do not use enough and i was trying to introduce both into this poem. i didnt use 'cacophony' just for the fact its a good word, i used it because it described the situation i was in at the time, the silence was deafening and creating an absolute tumult in my head. Its something i distinctly remember about the situation. Nevertheless, i appreciate your points. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show

02-12-2007, 06:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
Sneer Let it drip Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,397	never thought you was, as i said, i appreciate the posts. You cant improve on something unless you know what to improve on. id say exactly the same thing if you wrote a substandard piece. __________________ LastFM Sneer's Emporium of Sound Fright Team radio show