About writing! (lyrics, lead singer, bass, instrumental, rock)

A_Perfect_Sonnet · 04-23-2006, 07:07 PM

None of you are good writers anyway, so I can see why you wouldn't understand that lyrics are a form of poetry. Kudos to your ignorance.

littleknowitall · 04-23-2006, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by A_Perfect_Sonnet

None of you are good writers anyway, so I can see why you wouldn't understand that lyrics are a form of poetry. Kudos to your ignorance.

lyrics CAN be a form of poetry, that's what your not understanding, they dont HAVE to be poetry, and well leave it to the majority to decide who is ignorant, the majority being everyone you just insulted.

A_Perfect_Sonnet · 04-23-2006, 08:30 PM

You are lost on the fact that all lyrics are poetry, not all poetry is lyrical, aren't you?

littleknowitall · 04-23-2006, 08:32 PM

im not lost at all, im just in complete disagreement with you.

~~bungalow~~ · 04-23-2006, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by moley

lyrics CAN be a form of poetry, that's what your not understanding, they dont HAVE to be poetry, and well leave it to the majority to decide who is ignorant, the majority being everyone you just insulted.

A lyric, is a poem. Anytime lyrics are written it is poetry, because lyric is a form of poetry. Not all poetry consists of lyrics though.

littleknowitall · 04-23-2006, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357

A lyric, is a poem. Anytime lyrics are written it is poetry, because lyric is a form of poetry. Not all poetry consists of lyrics though.

i was under the impression that it could be put across as simply 'literature'

words written over a musical melody so to speak, hense forth are lyrics but...

the narration to peter and the wolf is not poetry it explains what the different features of the orchestra represent, the verse to demon hunter along with alot of other steeleye span songs are simply stories, they're not written to have any poetic license to them
and once in a life time by talking heads the verse is more of a speach really.

they're still all lyrics, just not what would be considered poetry.

TheBig3 · 04-23-2006, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by A_Perfect_Sonnet

None of you are good writers anyway, so I can see why you wouldn't understand that lyrics are a form of poetry. Kudos to your ignorance.

Ha, sure, I don't even know the recent crop of writers but such sweeping accounts of generalism and arrogance can never be write. Secondly, what are your qualifications to judge anything?

Reznorslave · 04-23-2006, 10:17 PM

Me personally, I cannot write just to write. I have to be inspired by something, an event, person, thing, etc. But when inspired I think that is when the true magic of writing happens. It definitely doesn't happen when it is "forced"!

DontRunMeOver · 04-24-2006, 04:56 AM

I'm going to carry on with the anal-ness...

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po·em (pm)
n.
1. A verbal composition designed to convey experiences, ideas, or emotions in a vivid and imaginative way, characterized by the use of language chosen for its sound and suggestive power and by the use of literary techniques such as meter, metaphor, and rhyme.
2. A composition in verse rather than in prose.
3. A literary composition written with an intensity or beauty of language more characteristic of poetry than of prose.
4. A creation, object, or experience having beauty suggestive of poetry.

Now, for something to fit a definition (using a dictionary) it has to fit only one of the definitions found there. Only one. A 'lyric' can fit the last definition (words put to music) and at the same time not fit any of the 'poem' criteria. Yes, a lot of lyrics - certainly most of the memorable ones - will fit into definition 1, although this characterisation seems to require them to have a meter, some rhyming etc. Vocals which are just sung to fit a tune, with words which are crammed into the melody like many rock bands do, do not count as poetry.

I love Muse, but could you really saymost of their lyrics are poems?

littleknowitall · 04-24-2006, 06:34 AM

heh, they're dictionary bashers dude, they sit around forums all day trying to correct people, just pretend they're not there and they might go away, and we can get back to discussing music.

(yay!)

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A_Perfect_Sonnet Dinosaurus Rex!!! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winchester, VA Posts: 896	None of you are good writers anyway, so I can see why you wouldn't understand that lyrics are a form of poetry. Kudos to your ignorance.

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A_Perfect_Sonnet Dinosaurus Rex!!! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winchester, VA Posts: 896	You are lost on the fact that all lyrics are poetry, not all poetry is lyrical, aren't you?

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littleknowitall Pow! Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,671	im not lost at all, im just in complete disagreement with you.

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littleknowitall Pow! Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,671	heh, they're dictionary bashers dude, they sit around forums all day trying to correct people, just pretend they're not there and they might go away, and we can get back to discussing music. (yay!)