Need opinions...

jibber · 02-12-2006, 12:50 PM

I'm gonna try and elaborate just for the hell of it, and in doing so I might go way off the mark, but whatever. To me, the speaker could possibly be talking to an ex-girlfriend, with whom he'd perviously had a very serious relationship. Although they're not romantically involved anymore, he's still tied down to her by what he feels, and a feeling of obligation to make sure she's ok. It seems like the person he's speaking to is extremely self destructive, dependant upon him, and is basically ruining her own life what's more, she is exagerating her situation, and lying to him in order to manipulate him into feeling sorry for her. Basically she's just an extremely passive agressive person, she could be lying to him about situations she's been getting into, or perhaps lying to him about what she felt while they were in the relationship. Either or, he's decided he wont put up with this anymore, and although he's resolved to cut himself off from her, he won't deny that all her lies and passive agressive behavior has affected him.

Crashing Sun · 02-13-2006, 09:03 AM

That was pretty much already said, yes? But it's close, damn close. Any closer and you'd be kissing her yourself. I will give this hint: the key-word I'm looking for is in the lyrics itself.

Merkaba · 02-13-2006, 04:44 PM

Just for fun is the word "will"

As in, a will she wrote out for when she dies?

Bit of a punt, I know.

jibber · 02-13-2006, 05:07 PM

also just for fun, is the word suicide?

she could be telling him that she'll kill herself in order to manipulate him into coming back to her, and he's decided to not give in, thinking that she's probably just bluffing, but scared to death in case she's actually serious.

Crashing Sun · 02-14-2006, 09:23 AM

Not like it's supposed to be obvious or anything (it's not) but our girl is a suicide-wannabe. The basic idea behind the song is that we shouldn't "bleed" for those who cry for attention. Yes, the song is vague. No you should not have picked up on that instantly but thank you for playing all the same. I'd say we have two winners now.

I sent Merk a PM already but I'll repeat here: If you want a CD mailed to you overseas from the U.S. you will need to send me sufficient funds through paypal (not to this email). Or I can just email mp3's. It will be about 1-2 months before I can send anything though as we are doing the final mixing now before getting it mastered.

02-12-2006, 12:50 PM	#11 (permalink)
jibber Freeskier Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Istanbul was Constantinople now it's Istanbul not Constantinople... Posts: 1,536	I'm gonna try and elaborate just for the hell of it, and in doing so I might go way off the mark, but whatever. To me, the speaker could possibly be talking to an ex-girlfriend, with whom he'd perviously had a very serious relationship. Although they're not romantically involved anymore, he's still tied down to her by what he feels, and a feeling of obligation to make sure she's ok. It seems like the person he's speaking to is extremely self destructive, dependant upon him, and is basically ruining her own life what's more, she is exagerating her situation, and lying to him in order to manipulate him into feeling sorry for her. Basically she's just an extremely passive agressive person, she could be lying to him about situations she's been getting into, or perhaps lying to him about what she felt while they were in the relationship. Either or, he's decided he wont put up with this anymore, and although he's resolved to cut himself off from her, he won't deny that all her lies and passive agressive behavior has affected him. __________________ What you've done becomes the judge of what you're going to do -- especially in other people's minds. When you're traveling, you are what you are right there and then. People don't have your past to hold against you. No yesterdays on the road. William Least Heat Moon, Blue Highways Your toughest competitor lives in your head. Some days his name is fear, or pain, or gravity. Stomp his ass. HOOKED ON THE WHITE POWDER

02-13-2006, 09:03 AM	#12 (permalink)
Crashing Sun Idontthinkyouknow Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Out of the Frying Pan Posts: 102	That was pretty much already said, yes? But it's close, damn close. Any closer and you'd be kissing her yourself. I will give this hint: the key-word I'm looking for is in the lyrics itself. __________________ People Against People "Scientists in Taiwan say they have bred three pigs that glow in the dark." (Support Spam)

02-13-2006, 04:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
Merkaba Whitewater! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,885	Just for fun is the word "will" As in, a will she wrote out for when she dies? Bit of a punt, I know. __________________ She thinks I'm a reclusive genius, she's going to be very disappointed when she finds out i'm a reclusive wanker

02-13-2006, 05:07 PM	#14 (permalink)
jibber Freeskier Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Istanbul was Constantinople now it's Istanbul not Constantinople... Posts: 1,536	also just for fun, is the word suicide? she could be telling him that she'll kill herself in order to manipulate him into coming back to her, and he's decided to not give in, thinking that she's probably just bluffing, but scared to death in case she's actually serious. __________________ What you've done becomes the judge of what you're going to do -- especially in other people's minds. When you're traveling, you are what you are right there and then. People don't have your past to hold against you. No yesterdays on the road. William Least Heat Moon, Blue Highways Your toughest competitor lives in your head. Some days his name is fear, or pain, or gravity. Stomp his ass. HOOKED ON THE WHITE POWDER

02-14-2006, 09:23 AM	#15 (permalink)
Crashing Sun Idontthinkyouknow Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Out of the Frying Pan Posts: 102	Not like it's supposed to be obvious or anything (it's not) but our girl is a suicide-wannabe. The basic idea behind the song is that we shouldn't "bleed" for those who cry for attention. Yes, the song is vague. No you should not have picked up on that instantly but thank you for playing all the same. I'd say we have two winners now. I sent Merk a PM already but I'll repeat here: If you want a CD mailed to you overseas from the U.S. you will need to send me sufficient funds through paypal (not to this email). Or I can just email mp3's. It will be about 1-2 months before I can send anything though as we are doing the final mixing now before getting it mastered. __________________ People Against People "Scientists in Taiwan say they have bred three pigs that glow in the dark." (Support Spam)