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01-10-2006, 07:36 PM | #1 (permalink) |
a l'amou fou pou tout
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She listens and doesnt say a word
She speaks and hardly listens She wanders around aimlessly She is meant to have a purpose She locks her secrets deep inside She is as open as a book She wants to scream, but just crys She gets all the attention twenty-four seven She looks in the mirror and sees two When she looks in the mirror, she sees two too They listen but hardly hear a thing They speak yet they dont say a word They aimlessly wander about They have no purpose, its just a front They lock themselves up inside They are willing to let anyone in if they actually tried They scream when no ones near They seek attention thats never there She looks in the mirror and sees two And wonders if they world sees two too so give some review, good or bad. i'll take it all |
01-10-2006, 08:31 PM | #2 (permalink) |
you are freakin out, man
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dude... its all cliches and the repetition is pretty bad....
i really dislike that whole contradiction thing you got going on... cuz you just give up on it and it ruins the whole piece... and never end with two homonyms... especially twotoo go dance or something |
01-10-2006, 08:38 PM | #3 (permalink) |
a l'amou fou pou tout
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you like the word dude huh
how do i give it up? not going on defensive mode, just wondering, im trying to make it better. thats why i need reviews. i do dance, but i like to write. just started, so im working at it. |
01-10-2006, 08:43 PM | #4 (permalink) | ||||
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01-10-2006, 08:50 PM | #5 (permalink) | |||
a l'amou fou pou tout
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okay i see with the
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okay, how about... She wanders around aimlessly She is meant to have a purpose |
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01-10-2006, 09:06 PM | #6 (permalink) | |
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What you've done becomes the judge of what you're going to do -- especially in other people's minds. When you're traveling, you are what you are right there and then. People don't have your past to hold against you. No yesterdays on the road. William Least Heat Moon, Blue Highways Your toughest competitor lives in your head. Some days his name is fear, or pain, or gravity. Stomp his ass. HOOKED ON THE WHITE POWDER |
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01-11-2006, 12:06 AM | #7 (permalink) |
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She listens and doesnt say a word
She speaks and hardly listens She wanders around aimlessly She is meant to have a purpose She locks her secrets deep inside She is as open as a book She wants to scream, but just crys She gets all the attention twenty-four seven ==Through using two contradictory statements in couplets - you are highlighting the confusion in the protagonist in your story. While this is uncommon, it is effective. (See bottom for why this is correct.) She looks in the mirror and sees two When she looks in the mirror, she sees two too ==Like someone said, using the homonym of two and too probably is detrimental to your poem. If you change up the words a little bit... it will turn these 2 lines into a pretty sweet image. One girl looking into the mirror and seeing two, and then the other girls she sees also sees two... pretty cool image == They listen but hardly hear a thing They speak yet they dont say a word They aimlessly wander about They have no purpose, its just a front They lock themselves up inside They are willing to let anyone in if they actually tried They scream when no ones near They seek attention thats never there ==Once again see bottom for the contradiction thing. I really like where this is going. While the beginning of the lines are continuously the same, it takes out all of the filler words that would have us read through the poem before we got to that which is the main focus.== She looks in the mirror and sees two And wonders if they world sees two too Great ending potential, but like I agreed with earlier, you just have to change that "two too" line Ok, now, about the contradictory lines in which people are giving you shit about. This is not incorrect. I'll tell you why! This works in Dialectical Methodology, contradiction does not refer to a conflict purely in a person's thinking or in logic. Rather, it indicates, for example, a clash between one's theory and one's practice, or one's words and one's deeds. I am a writer, which is why I know about these random things. Although I had trouble explaining it, I had a little help from wiki for explanation's sake. So what you do here with the protagonist, merely outlines her troubles state of mind instead of negates it. I like this poem a lot. Some touch ups here and there would make it a classy piece of work |
01-11-2006, 02:34 AM | #8 (permalink) |
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yeah this song is confusing. to make it better you'd have to change all the contradictions. which would basically just make a whole new song. oh well. keep writing.
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01-11-2006, 03:03 AM | #9 (permalink) |
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Uh, just so the contradiction bashing stops... I'll copy and paste what I wrote in my critique, just because it's really long and probably no one but crazy will read it...
Ok, now, about the contradictory lines in which people are giving you **** about. This is not incorrect. I'll tell you why! This works in Dialectical Methodology, contradiction does not refer to a conflict purely in a person's thinking or in logic. Rather, it indicates, for example, a clash between one's theory and one's practice, or one's words and one's deeds. Now whether Crazy new he was doing this or not, this is what it turned out to be... hes not wrong, its just something you're not used to. |
01-11-2006, 02:46 PM | #10 (permalink) |
you are freakin out, man
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im not saying its a bad concept... the contradictiction thing is effective... but i cant see many people appreciating it as much as crowe and i... or just crowe.... ill go back to my rock now
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