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madeinNY 01-09-2006 06:54 PM

yes, edge...?

jibber 01-09-2006 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by madeinNY
What if I never told anyone on this board I was 12?

then your lyrics would still be contrived, forced, cliche, and repetitive. we just wouldn't know why.

madeinNY 01-09-2006 06:55 PM

Why would you think?

A_Perfect_Sonnet 01-09-2006 06:56 PM

I'd probably think you had a mental handicap of some sort. Then I wouldn't have made fun of you as much.

madeinNY 01-09-2006 06:58 PM

I hate being vulnerable...and that makes me more vulnerable. So I feel the need to prove myself...why can't you let me just have that?

IamAlejo 01-09-2006 06:58 PM

MadeInNY, clear you message box i'm trying to send you something.

madeinNY 01-09-2006 06:59 PM

Ok I just did it, Alejo.

jibber 01-09-2006 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by madeinNY
I hate being vulnerable...and that makes me more vulnerable. So I feel the need to prove myself...why can't you let me just have that?

you're not vulnerable, You're just not an adult yet. there's nothing wrong with that. for god's sake just enjoy being a kid while you still can. It's awesome that you like writing songs. keep up with it because it's obviously a great outlet for you. You just asked us to give our honest opinion, and we did. There's a reason that artists who start out when they're really young only have audiences of young kids. It's because their songs and lyrics dont appeal to adult crowds who want something more out of the lyrics.

madeinNY 01-09-2006 07:02 PM

Thats the thing...I don't like being a kid. Kids get looked down on and thought of of less knowledgeable and idiotic. Thats not me...or maybe it is and I'm in denial.....

BlatzKriegBop 01-09-2006 07:11 PM

This thread should be deleted, Its nothing but spam and a crappy song

and MadeinNY i may not no u but u cant have it that hard compared to other ppl.

jibber 01-09-2006 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by madeinNY
Thats the thing...I don't like being a kid. Kids get looked down on and thought of of less knowledgeable and idiotic. Thats not me...or maybe it is and I'm in denial.....

you are less knowledgeable. deal with it and for god's sake enjoy being ABLE to be less knowledgeable. Right now, even though i'm sure you have tough things to deal with, you don't have a whole lot of responsibilities. Your parents are responsible for supporting you, you have your family and friends to get you through hard times. Don't try and grow up too fast, enjoy the fact that you have the choice to be completely carefree with your life, enjoy not having demands placed on you, and enjoy the fact that you CAN be naiive and innocent and not worry about money, time, your future, all the things that you're gonna be spending way too much time worrying about when you grow up. I realize i'm repeating myself to death here, so yeah, i'll leave it at that.

madeinNY 01-09-2006 07:16 PM

jibber, I appreciate you trying to make me realise something that people have been telling me for ages out of love...but really, they way I live makes me happy, you say enjoy being right now, well I am. What I do makes me happy. I think I already said that though....you may not believe me but I assure you, tis true.

mosesandtherubberducky 01-09-2006 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by madeinNY
Thats the thing...I don't like being a kid. Kids get looked down on and thought of of less knowledgeable and idiotic. Thats not me...or maybe it is and I'm in denial.....



Kids get looked down upon because adults are older, and they have lived through more than kids. I loved being 7, it was great, I knew nothing so I wasn't afraid of all the bad stuff going on. When you get older you see more, you grow to understand that life isn't about Pokemon and Captain Planet. And children are looked down upon for being "less knowledgeable" (which is a nice way to say stupid) because they don't know anything. Unless you can prove yourself to older others then you will be looked down upon. You have not proven yourself you have dug a hole and started to let the dirt pour in around you. If you like your hole then please by all means stay in it and keep with the belief that you like girls. You are 12, 12 you aren't even old enough to have a part-time job. Quit trying to act big and enjoy being 12, because then you turn 13 and then 14 and then 15 and then before you know it you are 25 and you wasted all those years, from 12 to 24 trying to act grown up. Embrace your childhood, you will be grateful for the memories.

madeinNY 01-10-2006 01:27 PM

You guys dont get it! I am enjoying my life right now as I am living it, I don't need to change it! I'm happy and I'll look back fondly at these memories!! No matter what you all say, THAT^^ will always be my response. With respect, please bugger off.

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They have lived through more.
Like Crowe said, not always true. There are some kids who go through a **** of a lot more than people in their 20's or 30's, etc... Some people have such an easy ride, while others have it rough through and through. That's not arguable.

mosesandtherubberducky 01-10-2006 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by madeinNY
Like Crowe said, not always true. There are some kids who go through a **** of a lot more than people in their 20's or 30's, etc... Some people have such an easy ride, while others have it rough through and through. That's not arguable.




Sure there are. There are kids who have seen their parents go to jail, and visted them. There are kids who's dads made meth, or other drugs. There are kids who were molested by their parents. (none of that has happened to me to your knowledge) But it is doubtable that you have seen or had that happen to you, for christ's sake you are 12 drop the attention seeking desires and act like a 12 year old!

bungalow 01-10-2006 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesandtherubberducky
Sure there are. There are kids who have seen their parents go to jail, and visted them. There are kids who's dads made meth, or other drugs. There are kids who were molested by their parents. (none of that has happened to me to your knowledge) But it is doubtable that you have seen or had that happen to you, for christ's sake you are 12 drop the attention seeking desires and act like a 12 year old!

I recall you telling me that your dad was quite the chemist...

BlatzKriegBop 01-10-2006 05:39 PM

Personally, i'd prefer she shut the hell up.

mosesandtherubberducky 01-10-2006 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bungalowbill357
I recall you telling me that your dad was quite the chemist...




True, he stopped now. But to get back on the lost topic that I don't feel like going all the way to page one about. I don't like the song, it seems like a sob story and a shot for attention.

madeinNY 01-10-2006 05:46 PM

No, it was a song for my depressed friend Ella and it made her happy and thats all that matters.

I dont want to act 12. It makes me sad to act 12. How the **** does a 12 y.o. act anyway?? Without using steriotypes.

How the **** do you know what Ive been through, moses?

mosesandtherubberducky 01-10-2006 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by madeinNY
No, it was a song for my depressed friend Ella and it made her happy and thats all that matters.

I dont want to act 12. It makes me sad to act 12. How the **** does a 12 y.o. act anyway?? Without using steriotypes.

How the **** do you know what Ive been through, moses?

I'm Moses, how else?

12 year olds are in short naive to the world and don't care. They care more about playing games then about sex and money. They can be happy about seeing something that older people take for granted. Right now I would normally say grow up but that totally defeats the purpose of my views. Act your age.

sleepy jack 01-10-2006 05:57 PM

Well, if it was for ella why bother posting it on the forum? I swear you just post songs for the sake of posting them not cause you want them fixed or help on them or anything.

madeinNY 01-10-2006 06:04 PM

No, I like to get reviews. Most I want suggestions and whatnot on.

I posted this because I wanted to see what you all thought.

creepinson 01-10-2006 07:12 PM

if its as personal and important as you say it is, keep it to your self

if you wanna get some songs done to vent whatever youve got on ur chest, get, try to get into music, or like have a band or something, fine... send us a post, well try to help you out

personally i would be offended if you wrote a personal song for me and showed it to the whole world... its contrived stuff anyway... if it made this chick happy woopty doo. wait until you write a song for yourself... and then we might give a crit that you can use

Crazy Luv 01-10-2006 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mosesandtherubberducky
I'm Moses, how else?

12 year olds are in short naive to the world and don't care. They care more about playing games then about sex and money. They can be happy about seeing something that older people take for granted. Right now I would normally say grow up but that totally defeats the purpose of my views. Act your age.


you're talking like you met every ****ing 12 yr. old in the world

creepinson 01-10-2006 07:25 PM

nope hes talking like he met THIS 12 year old...

whoah i just read your song for the first time... i found the spam more interesting... dude now i see what theyre talking about....

btw... if that song was supposed to cheer someone up... you prolly coulda done a clown dance or something... cuz i dont even know you... and hearing about all your little problems makes me wanna die... yes right here.... right now

madeinNY 01-10-2006 07:27 PM

Yea I know, really, Crazy. ;]

I am nothing like the kids you descirbe in your posts, and frankly I don't wish to be.

Cripson, I write tons of songs for myself, check out this forum ;)

Crazy Luv 01-10-2006 07:31 PM

^sorry to spam, but Lex, clean out your messeges, gotta send you something.

madeinNY 01-10-2006 07:32 PM

K just did it ;)

creepinson 01-10-2006 07:36 PM

the fact that you write plenty of songs for yourself doesnt make up for the fact that your sharing something that is supposed to be completely private with us...

if its gonna be something personal... atleast dont talk about it... we have enough problems of our own

and lol dude crazy luv... you dont need to be worryin about spam on this thread man

madeinNY 01-10-2006 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by creepinson
nope hes talking like he met THIS 12 year old...

whoah i just read your song for the first time... i found the spam more interesting... dude now i see what theyre talking about....

btw... if that song was supposed to cheer someone up... you prolly coulda done a clown dance or something... cuz i dont even know you... and hearing about all your little problems makes me wanna die... yes right here.... right now

something over the internet makes you wanna die? :laughing: you and that guy who killed himself over myspace should hang in the afterlife, y'know what im saying?

creepinson 01-10-2006 07:50 PM

the song... is just that bad

and this dude seems pretty cool... wait how old is he? i dont want him to be one of those self absorbed, whiny ass kids that just wants attention... you know the kind im talking about?

ive got better people to hang out with in MY afterlife... like bambis mom...

madeinNY 01-10-2006 07:54 PM

what dude? Moses? I think hes like 17...

Bambis mom? :laughing:

bungalow 01-10-2006 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by madeinNY
what dude? Moses? I think hes like 17...

Bambis mom? :laughing:

moses is 15.
And 25 years more intelligent than you.

EDGE 01-10-2006 09:11 PM

this thread is a mess.

creepinson 01-11-2006 01:51 PM

kill it now... i cant stand to see someone even trying to take a shot at moses... especially this someone

madeinNY 01-11-2006 01:57 PM

Im not trying to take a shot at moses.

creepinson 01-11-2006 02:01 PM

in any case... both the thread and its originator should be killed

madeinNY 01-11-2006 03:14 PM

You want me dead? Then come kill me, ****er. Give me your best shot.

mosesandtherubberducky 01-11-2006 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by creepinson
kill it now... i cant stand to see someone even trying to take a shot at moses... especially this someone



I like you, even more now. *BIG HIGH FIVE*

Urban Hat€monger ? 01-11-2006 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by madeinNY

Can we go back when we were young?
Talking about Simon Cowell
And Paula Abdul?

Wasn`t that like 3 months ago?


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