TheBig3

While I think Urbans post is logical, the part of me who lieks fights debate and argument makes me want to call you fence riders panseys.

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<Fence riding pansy.

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Urban Hat€monger ?

I didn`t say he couldn`t twat the guys in the band if they said no

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TheBig3

how do you twat someone?

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Urban Hat€monger ?

twat = slang for punch

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TheBig3

oh silly me, I thought it was slang for vagina

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jibber

just make sure that whatever you decide upon, you take the time to write the lyrics well. If a song tells a story badly, it doesnt matter how interesting the story is, it's still a sh*tty song. Same goes for ambiguous lyrics. Maybe go for a comprimise, write songs with hidden metaphors, as Thrice said. that way, you can tell your story, but since people tend to interpret songs differently based on personal experience, people will be able to relate something in their own lives to the song. I can think of a number of songs where the lyrics could refer to a whole number of completely different situations, depending on how you look at it. On a completely separate note, Thrice posted recently, holy sh*t that's a deja vu if i ever saw one.

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DontRunMeOver

Well thanks for your comments, keep them coming. At the moment I fully plan to stick to story-based songs. They're a kind of sink for the crap that results from my bizzare imagination and sickening sense of humour. Occasionally the odd meaningful song creeps in, but mostly my mind's filled with too much shallow idiocy. In fact, I'll give you of my frankly stupid writing style now - the song has a pretty melody (which you can't hear right now) and very unpretty lyrics... The plot isn't based on real life experience thanfully!

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SPOT

I had a dog
A little doggy
He was so fluffy and soggy nosed
He used to crawl beneath my bedclothes in the morning
Without warning

Oh where did my doggy go
I looked so high and I looked so low
I went and checked every corner of the house
I peered under the table but I only found a mouse
I took an ad out in the local paper
It said "Anybody seen my doggy?"
But then a little later
As I was browsing on the internet
That's where I found my long lost pet

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SPOT, on an MPeg
Doing a funny thing with his hind legs
And a man in a gimp mask
Taking my poor little puppy up the ass

We used to go out for walks
And I well recall how he liked to eat pork
And that his tail would start wagging when there was shagging on the TV
Well I suppose that I should have guessed
By the way he barked each time that I undressed
It wasn't fleas that made his balls begin to itch
All he wanted to be was a dirty little bitch

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SPOT, where have you gone?
When did you take to filming bestial porn?
My poor old pooch, I am shocked to find
That you enjoy being taken from behind

Oh SPOT you hurt me so, so much
I felt compelled to write this song
Your dirty deeds they broke my heart

They also kind of turned me on

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So far opinion is split - half the people who have heard the song think its funny, half think its extremely worrying, obviously not sharing my sense of humour. Which half are you?

TheBig3

Ok heres what I mean by specific. When you write "Doing a funny thing with his hind legs" is too open to interpertation. While I strongly agree with fenix in saying that you should eat the paper this was written on, we can still use it as an example.

A funny thing- what is that, what could it be? Was he doing it, was the guy doing it to him? Is it actually comical, it is funny in the sence of odd? Exactly how mnay diffrent things can dogs do with their back legs.

This is where I have a probalem with unspecivity. Be specific.

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DontRunMeOver

Gotcha. Although I would say there's only so much specificity you can squeeze into a 10 syllable line. While it might have somehow been better as a written lyric if I'd said "strapped to a pleasure machine by dark leather bonds, with the stark, unpadded frame pressing against his freshly shaved skin, sending fearful yet excited tremors through his hind legs" there is no way that this would have fitted into the meter of the song. Also more detail probably would have made me feel sick.

I see what you mean though. Being boringly vague is different to using interesting metaphors and arty ambiguous phrases. A lot of the time I'm sure that kind of thing appear in my lyrics without me realising it.

Thanks for the comments so far, if anybody else wants to offer some (or if those who've already posted want to offer more) then fire away.