alice in chains>>>nirvana>>>>>pearl jam>soundgarden>>>>melvins haha

naaa, let me change that. i need to listen to some more melvins

aic>>>nirvana>>the mevins>pearl jam>soundgarden.

what melvins albums would u recommend?

^^Lysol, Bullhead or Stoner Witch are good starting points.

Led Zeppelin >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pearl Jam.

I don't like the softer sound of Pearl Jam's songs. I don't like the singer's voice. There is almost nothing about their songs that I like, except that they are in tune.

An example of a Pearl Jam song I dislike is "Better Man." It starts out okay with some nice eerie electric guitar, but then turns into a soppy mess of repetitive sap with a little rev-up midway that doesn't redeem the song in my ears. The song is almost completely forgettable to me. I wish it were entirely.

I don't have tepid opinions! :p:

ya, zeppelin is better than pearl jam

If you`re interested in these bands, I`d recommend their best stuff to you, they`re both the finest examples of 1970s/1980s AOR.

The Melvins had a huge influence on the grunge bands, but for a grunge fan to like the Melvins is not always that straight-forward especially since their sludge metal sound is not always the most accessible. Place to start though is with Houdini.

Ok forget Pearl Jam and just concentrate on Free.:p:

I got a lot of flack on another thread when I suggested Television sounded like "Boston with weird guitars"

Thats not as crazy as it sounds and had Television not been making new-wave style music, they easily had the technical ability to play like Boston. People rave over Television and Marquee Moon is a great album but I`d sooner listen to Boston anyday. I mean the Boston debut and their third album Third Stage are timeless classics.

Just saw the video of Jimmy Page from the 50s and thought I'd share. Really interesting stuff. The music is pretty good and it's funny to see him as such a nervous, polite young guy during the interview part.

Stairway to Heaven was good.

Am I the only one in the world who doesn't think that Robert plant has one of the best voices to grace the human ear?

no

He has a good voice, but he spoils it too much himself. If he sang normally instead of AAAAGHHHH UUUUUUGHHH all the time he would be great. I don't like his timbre, too.

And, my main opinion of Page/Plant, I don't know if someone said it so far, but The most goddamn overrated songwriters EVER!

I must admit Robert's voice is very toucing... his got a gift and he thrills the listeners, he is not the greatest voice of the century but I would definitely include him at the same list with artist such as freddie mercury, Elvis Presley,Andy Williams, Ian gillan etc...

I don't find it as powerful as others seem to think.

Personally I think David Coverdale sings this type of music far better than Robert Plant ever did, But because he was in Whitesnake & not Led Zeppelin he'll never get anywhere near the amount of credit he should

David Coverdale is a great singer but honestly I don't think he sings that kinda stuff better than Robert Plant
when Robert Plant sings he is touching you, he's not just singing
he's not fake like so many other singers, he means what he sings otherwise he wouldn't sing it
but you know this is a matter of taste

the bottom line is what you said, he was a part of Led Zeppelin and not whitesnake, that's why he gets this amount of credit

who's better? this is a matter of taste, they're both great singers

I was talking with one of my friends about this the other day and he was saying that Robert plant could hit some really low notes, I could only ask "when?". His voice is always pretty high and whiny and quite annoying.

he has a wide range, you said his voice kinda annoying,
I like this sound,when he sort of scream
he doesn't sing like others do, some people may like this and some not

He does not have a wide range at all. He has a fairly high pitched scream and a pretty soft and gentle whisper type of singing. Not much range at all. He's not a bad singer at all but i don't think he's nearly as good as some people do. Listen to the small faces song "you need love" and tell me plant doesn't sing In a very similar way to Steve Marriott.

He can sing some low notes and high notes, and he does it in his Very special way
Don't you think he is a very unique singer?

Not really. I think the best thing about the band would the other three members. But they wouldn't be zeppelin without so I guess that makes him great by association.

His voice was distinctive with that bluesy wail and he was everything a frontman should be. But I'd say there were quite a few singers of his generation better voice wise. But he was in Led Zeppelin and had the best material to work with song for song compared to his rivals.

I can agree with that. Whether or not I like his voice, it was distinctive. And he had the sex appeal and strutted his stuff like he was mick jagger, which made him a good front man.

I'm curious to know who you think was a better singer.

From his generation and of a similiar kind of music I'd say the following in no set order and I'm talking just voice here and nothing else- Ian Gillan, Steven Tyler, Phil Mogg, Dio, Paul Rodgers, Klaus Meine, Rob Halford and Dave Byron.

I think that bluesy wail is another thing that makes him an extraordinary singer,
I can't imagine somebody who can sing led Zeppelin stuff better than him
But you know that's what so beautiful about music, there's no such thing as better music, or a better singer... If you love something its enough,

Looks like the estate of Randy California will finally be joining the list of songwriters who've sued Led Zeppelin for copyright infringement...

Led Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven vs. Spirit's Taurus: A Reckoning? - Businessweek

I love led too. I am pretty excited because I even started a collection with their memorabilia.
Do you have something from led?

Since every band here is suppose to have only one thread I would like some opinions on these " Remastered " albums..... I was listening to their second album and it has some interesting parts that I had not heard before.

Oh I'll jump in here. As a fan right from the inception of Zep I'd say it's not really not liking them it was a intense disappointment in the albums that came after they had released their first few albums. 1,2,3,4,5, were stunning examples of pop rock music then the bottom fell out in my opinion.
They managed to right the ship after Presence with Physical Graffiti, but then feel short once again with In Through The Out Door and Coda.......
Even the most ardent fan must agree these albums represent just a shadow of what the band was accomplishing on the first 5 albums.

Love and Respect Robert Plant and led
 

I always wanted to see Robert Plant! and now he is playing in LA, the presale is with Citi Privatepass!

Total Zep Junkie Here:

Graffiti was their 6th album and Presence their 7th. Presence was not even planned. The band was suppose to be doing a world tour but that got cancelled when Plant had his near fatal car accident in the fall of 1975.

And then the band had to leave England because of tax reasons. So they were all really kind of down and Page suggested they do an album. When they got in the studio no one had any material so Page took charge and the album got recorded. Notice that there's no keyboards or acoustic numbers - just angry driving hard rock.

In Through the Out Door was a wreck cause Page was a full blown addict and Bonham was a full blown alcoholic during those sessions. Most of that album was written by Plant and JPJ. That's why the songs sound so different.

And Coda was just outtakes and was only released (3 years after Bonham died) to fulfill a contractual obligation the band had with Atlantic Records.

^some interesting backstory there. I always figured that Presence was largely written by Page because of how guitar based it is.

Japanese Zeppelin tribute band "Headley Grange".

The Jimmy Page dragon suit..........

:rofl:

http://headleygrange.konjiki.jp/HG-Mk2-Large.jpg

Hmmm.... picture not showing up at home. Anyone else seeing it?

I always hear people complain about In through the out door but I love that album and Presence is fantastic. Achilles is worth the price of admission alone. There is a large segment of people that think Presence is the best album they ever did.

That's probably because it is their best album. Fact.

It was so bad ass that they played For Your Life at the 2007 O2 reunion.

Presence is pretty basic mid 70s hard rock despite the killer Achilles track and In Through the Out Door is a mess of an album, both are far below all the Led Zep albums released before these last two.

I agree in retrospective 1, 2, 3, 4, and then the rest leading up to Presence are stunning albums and in my opinion it all completely falls a part after that!

Why has no people who listen to rock as a career not pointed out this Stairway To Heaven song sounds very very similar to Taurus by Spirit. I mean there is much more to Stairway To Heaven then the intro, but they could have at least given them some writing credit like the other songs they have recorded by Black artists.................

It's not that simple though. That descending riff has been around for ages. Spirit didn't write it.

Taurus came out in 1968. This is from 1959. Check out the intro.



There's examples of that riff dating back even longer. It's even been used in old classical compositions.