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~~MicShazam~~ · 10-17-2017, 04:30 PM

Eh, I usually don't like Frownland's picks. And I don't enjoy free jazz.
I tend to like Batlord, Trollheart and Man Like Monkey's music choices the most.

OccultHawk · 10-17-2017, 04:32 PM

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Eh, I usually don't like Frownland's picks. And I don't enjoy free jazz.
I tend to like Batlord, Trollheart and Man Like Monkey's music choices the most.

Yeah, I mean it's cool but your limitations are clear.

~~MicShazam~~ · 10-17-2017, 04:34 PM

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Yeah, I mean it's cool but your limitations are clear.

It's called 'personal tastes'.

OccultHawk · 10-17-2017, 04:46 PM

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It's called 'personal tastes'.

Not really. It's also about knowledge and understanding.

~~MicShazam~~ · 10-17-2017, 04:50 PM

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Not really. It's also about knowledge and understanding.

It's music. First and foremost, you need two things = your ears, and time.

The Batlord · 10-17-2017, 05:22 PM

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It's called 'personal tastes'.

Nah I don't listen to much jazz so I haven't developed an ear to listen it, so while I can say that free jazz doesn't do anything for me that's less a legitimate criticism than it would be if I said the same thing about Thrash Metal Band X. I simply don't know what I'm listening to, which is fine so long as I don't portray my opinion as anything else.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 10-17-2017, 05:48 PM

free jazz is ****ing great when i'm in the mood for it but much like any other more challenging style of music, i can only stomach so much of it. while i typically respect musicians under the free jazz, avant garde, experimental, etc label more, i spend way more time listening to stuff like grime, punk and pop music.

i'm the same way with movies actually. while i absolutely love art house cinema and directors like Michael Haneke and Lars von Trier (just as an example), I spend far more time watching over the top action flicks or ****ty 80s so bad they're good horror movies.

it's a good balance of both sides that does it best for me. i do think as i listen to more and more jazz i will get sucked further and further down the rabbit hole though, it's just atm i feel like there's still so much to explore in terms of the genres i find easier to listen to.

Trollheart · 10-17-2017, 06:02 PM

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I'm like literally right there on the 30 year mark with Cecil and Ornette. Free jazz has been the biggest constant in my listening habits. A solid appreciation for free jazz is a litmus test with me. If you get it I'll take your opinion into consideration about anything. If not, I discount opinions that are outside of their purview. Especially negative ones. Like with Bat, if he likes something I know right away it's very likely to be good. But if he doesn't like something I take it with a grain of salt. I don't care if everyone wants to call me a #FrownDickRider because this is the truth. There's a few cases where I'm not eye to eye on every single musician but I make sure I check out the stuff you rave on and almost always feel the same way.

Haters can hate y'all but Frown knows his stuff. Respect where it's due.

I think I'm reading this wrong so by all means tell me if so but: are you saying that if someone is not into free jazz you will discount their opinion on any other music, or on free jazz? Or, are you (as I think you are) saying that, whatever the genre, you'll only give credence to the opinion of someone who is familiar with it? As in, if I said punk is **** you'd say (and you'd be right) that I don't know what I'm talking about because I've listened to so little?

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Yeah, I mean it's cool but your limitations are clear.

That's an arrogant thing to say now really. Just because someone doesn't like free jazz does not mean they're limited. Different strokes, man.

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Not really. It's also about knowledge and understanding.

Another arrogant thing to say. I may have plenty of knowledge and understanding of, say, soul, but not like it. That doesn't mean I'm limited just cos I don't like soul. But I would agree - and I've been guilty of this in the past - that you shouldn't diss music you haven't at least listened to.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 10-17-2017, 06:12 PM

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I do get the feeling all roads eventually lead to jazz

**Frownland** · 10-17-2017, 06:13 PM

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That's an arrogant thing to say now really. Just because someone doesn't like free jazz does not mean they're limited. Different strokes, man.

But those who don't like free jazz (or any genre, really) mostly dismiss the genre because they are assigning inappropriate requirements that don't make sense for that genre, like expecting a jazz album to check all of the boxes of what makes a great country record. I think we've had this conversation before. Someone who listens to free jazz has a better understanding of it than someone whose knowledge of the genre is ------limited------

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~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,634	Eh, I usually don't like Frownland's picks. And I don't enjoy free jazz. I tend to like Batlord, Trollheart and Man Like Monkey's music choices the most.