Definition of classic rock?

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea · 07-22-2017, 10:30 PM

Yeah I agree, calling something "classic" when it's brand new is pretty ridiculous. Whoever wrote or said that should be fired!

Chula Vista · 07-22-2017, 10:34 PM

How about "in the style of classic rock"?

Do you think these wee young lads have listened to a little bit of Led Zeppelin? Check out the drummer at 3:45.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 07-23-2017, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

How about "in the style of classic rock"?

Do you think these wee young lads have listened to a little bit of Led Zeppelin? Check out the drummer at 3:45.

oh god make it stop please

OccultHawk · 07-23-2017, 11:10 AM

With a much better singer they could be a sorry imitation of the White Stripes.

Blue Hawk · 07-23-2017, 11:13 AM

Definition of classic rock.

Chula Vista · 08-28-2017, 02:58 PM

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Definition of classic rock.

When this came out in 1973 it blew everyone away. Rock Candy was the first song I ever played in public. Was a 1975-76 graduation party at some dudes house. Guy's dad was rich and they had this HUGE rec room downstairs. Had to have been 50-60 totally stoned, and working their way towards drunk, teens there.

That was also the day I realized that having long hair and playing rock guitar was a gateway to easy female "attention".

Another awesome track from Montrose's debut.

The guy who engineered this was Ted Templeton, who 5 years later would engineer Van Halen's debut album.

Moss · 07-23-2017, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Qwertyy

oh god make it stop please

Wow. Any royalties should go straight to swan song or Peter Grant or wherever that **** goes.

Trollheart · 07-23-2017, 01:54 PM

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So what you're saying is symphonic prog has tenets. I just don't think they should abuse that word and should be referred to more specifically than progressive rock. And I would argue that the genre should still be ablut progression because it's in the damn name. Same with conscious hip hop. Are you really that woke if you were saying the same basic **** that Nas was throwing down in the 90s?

Well, I would argue those tenets apply to any progressive rock, even prog metal at times. However I do agree with you; it's definitely not progressive, not in the way your experimental/drone/noise/whatever stuff is. But until we come up with a new word (please, no wank rock!) we're stuck with it, and I prefer it because I know when I see the tag that there's a good chance I'll like it. Something that does annoy me is Progressive Trance, I think it is? I see it around a lot. What the hell is that?

As for the genre being about progression, well that was easy in the seventies, when all this stuff was new. Now there's not so much different that can be attempted, and if you go too far off the path you wander into experimental territory, which I guess wasn't really a thing in the seventies, at least not as it is now. So again, we're stuck. I would certainly agree that bands I listen to have done nothing to advance the cause of music, ie progress it forward, but that doesn't stop me liking them. The only one I'd give a pass to in that regard would be Marillion, who, along with Radiohead, were one of the first to go for the "pay what you like" business model, and also one of the first to get fans to pre-pay for (essentially I guess finance) their next albums. So that's pretty progressive. Musically, without a question, not in the least, not even close.

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Originally Posted by rostasi

Classic Rock (4,030,000,000 years old)

or

Whichever is older.

Excellent.

Also

**Frownland** · 07-23-2017, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Well, I would argue those tenets apply to any progressive rock, even prog metal at times. However I do agree with you; it's definitely not progressive, not in the way your experimental/drone/noise/whatever stuff is. But until we come up with a new word (please, no wank rock!) we're stuck with it, and I prefer it because I know when I see the tag that there's a good chance I'll like it. Something that does annoy me is Progressive Trance, I think it is? I see it around a lot. What the hell is that?

Symphonic jazz rock?

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As for the genre being about progression, well that was easy in the seventies, when all this stuff was new. Now there's not so much different that can be attempted, and if you go too far off the path you wander into experimental territory, which I guess wasn't really a thing in the seventies, at least not as it is now. So again, we're stuck. I would certainly agree that bands I listen to have done nothing to advance the cause of music, ie progress it forward, but that doesn't stop me liking them. The only one I'd give a pass to in that regard would be Marillion, who, along with Radiohead, were one of the first to go for the "pay what you like" business model, and also one of the first to get fans to pre-pay for (essentially I guess finance) their next albums. So that's pretty progressive. Musically, without a question, not in the least, not even close.

Of course there are different ways to progress, it always just seems like everything has been done because innovation wouldn't be innovative if it was already in the picture. Plus, a lot of prog bands in the 70s like King Crimson were pretty experimental. There are a lot of experimental rock bands that I would call progressive rock, like Perhaps or Massacre. Most self proclaimed progressive rock bands don't really reflect what I'd like the genre to be, so I think they should be xalled something else.

The Batlord · 07-23-2017, 02:51 PM

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so I think they should be xalled something else.

I got xalled once. Couldn't sit down for a week.

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