Music Man

Again, your point is correct. Though I would say they've been past their prime for over 30 years.

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jibber

haha, true, at times it is hard to seperate someone's actual personality from the music they make. I'll admit i've made similar judgements, it's one of the reasons that i'm not all that big on metalica. I acknowledge that it's not the most rational way to judge music, but still, at times it's very hard to make that distinction.

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Music Man

I primarily disagreed with the part that they broke up "too soon". IMO, they broke up at just the right time. By 1970--drugs, Yoko, and their egos had taken an incredible toll on the Fab Four.

For all we know, if they had stayed together, we may very well have seen a substantial decrease in the quality of their music in any subsequent albums.

IMO, things worked out for the best.

On a personal level, I'm impressed that the Stones could stay together this long and not hate each others guts. But people need to face the hard truth--the Stones are only a skeleton of their former greatness.

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--Rob Halford of Judas Priest

jibber

yeah, but does the fact that they're not making great music anymore diminish the quality af their music from years ago?

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Music Man

Your point is irrelevant.

The Beatles have sold over a BILLION records worldwide, hundreds of millions more than the Stones. The Beatles were also far more influential both musically and socially than the Stones.

So the PEOPLE (of many countries and cultures) have spoken--the Beatles reign supreme over the Stones.

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--Rob Halford of Judas Priest

jibber

I agree that the beatles were more influential than the stones, but how does that make them a better band? For that matter, how do record sales make them a better band either? The beatles were a pop band, so it stands to reason that they'd be pretty damn popular. The stones, while hugely popular, were always a rock band. taking it a step further, you could argue that because Britney spears has sold more records than the stones, she's a better artist than the stones.

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Music Man

Your reasoning is fallacious, and some of your facts incorrect.

No, the Stones weren't always a rock band. They've released a lot of pop tunes (and crappy pop at that), and even stooped so low as to record disco-style songs.

The Beatles were immensely popular because of the sheer greatness of their music, not because it was their goal to write popular songs. Songs like "Helter Skelter", "I am the Walrus" and "Revolution #9"--as well most of their other songs--certainly weren't written with "popularity" in mind.

AC/DC has always played ear-splitting hard rock, and they've done it so well that their music has become popular with many people. But that doesn't mean their music belongs in the "pop" music genre. Pop music is Britney Spears, the Backstreet Boys and other "fluff stuff".

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--Rob Halford of Judas Priest

jibber

Pop music isn't just britney spears and backstreet boys (crap in other words). A lot of really great music, innovative music, and influential music, such as the beatles can be described as pop. Don't get me wrong, the beatles are one of my all time favortie bands, and I consider their lyrics to be some of the best ever written, but I also thing that just because the stones made some crap songs, it doesnt diminish the fact that they made some really amazing, innovative, and influential music as well. I just have a different way of looking at it than you do, it doesnt make it wrong.

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bungalow

Actually, The Stones are the best selling band of all time.
They sold more records than the Beatles
But the beatles are better and more influential.

Urban Hat€monger ?

Stones not infuencial?

Oh come on , every single rock guitarist going has copied Keith at some point.Be it look , riff , pose or attitude.

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