boo boo

In other words you hail a band for doing traditional rock n roll rather than anything new and doing the same tired crap over and over and over for 40 years, as opposed to doing the opposite, which of course is bad.

The Shaggs were honest, and they are still reasonably enough the worst band in music history.

Looking cooler and being more honest, what in the hell are you guys gonna come up with next?

Honesty has no place in music, if a band sounds like sh*t, they sound like sh*t, I don't care how honest they are, it dosen't make a band better.

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I`m talking about in this one instance.You might think it`s tired crap , but that tired crap influenced some of my favourite bands over that 40 year period and continue to do so. I`m not actually a fan of much 'traditional rock n roll' I just happen to think the Stones do it far better than a great many other bands , which is why I listen to the Stones far more than any other 'Traditional rock n roll band'
I like diversity , I like experimentation , but like I said to me when the Beatles did it , it sounded watered down. If i`m going to listen to a pyschadelia album i`ll pick up The 13th Floor Elevators Easter Everywhere,Floyds Piper At The Gates Of Dawn , Red Krayolas Parable of Arable Land or Frank Zappas Freak Out.Not the Beatles 3 minute watered down pop attempts at it.

What the hells that got to do with anything?
No doubt you`ll have a fit if I say all prog rock is sh*t based on Rick Wakemans solo career.

Dunno what arguement you`ve been reading but for the past few days myself & Big3 have expressed a preference to the Stones based wholly on music.

People look for different things in music.I can relate better to honest music.Like I said to me Sgt Pepper is one big excercise in window dressing.

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when i think of the stones i think of haggard old men that should of given up 20 years ago. You mention the beatles watered down psychedelic pop, the stones attempts at psychedelia were terrible. its like the white stripes going all synth on us.

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Im going out right now but I hope you realize you're "seeing" are argument the way you want to as to frame it in a ridiculous manner.

I don't think anyone said what you are implying. Read it again Boo Boo, you know what was said there.

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Yeah but I already covered that

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im lazy

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boo boo

I don't see Sgt Peppers as being watered down at all.

Though it's not "punkish" like the bands you mentioned, which I can imagine is the main reason you don't like it.

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Punkish???????

Are you even reading the same arguement?

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i think it takes alot more skill to deliver a measured, disciplined 'psychedelic' album then that which is all out mind-****. that isnt to say the latter is a bad thing, in fact piper at the gates... is my favourite floyd album and psychedelic sounds... is one of my favourites of the moment. i just think what the beatles did was a master stroke in making psychedelia accessible to a mass audience.

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I find PATGOD to have a rather punk like vibe.

But of course punk-ish and punk aint the same thing.

Word.

I admit, I have a very strong biased towards Sgt. Peppers, not only because it's my favorite album, but also because it (along Mother Of Invention's Freak Out and Moody Blue's Days of Future Past) set the blueprints for progressive rock in a lot of ways.

Prog started out as being more or less "diciplined" psychedelic rock.

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