jackhammer

Cream were a rehash of John mayalls Bluesbreakers and The Yardbirds with two exceptional musicians added in Jack Bruce and Ginger Baker. I'm not even a big stones fan but to relegate them that low in your estimation is folly in my eyes. The Stones were very influential especially in the UK and one could argue that their attituce coupled with American garage music was a building block to the explosion of hard edged Rock music that came a few years later.

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boo boo

I know they're one of the most influencial rock bands ever if not THE most influencial. I never denied that.

I'm saying that of all the relevant British rock bands from 65/75. They were probably the least original. Zeppelin and Cream may have started out as blues bands but they took greater artistic risks for the most part IMO.

I'm not saying the Stones are completely unoriginal, but it's not even arguble that what was most innovative about the band was their image and lyrical subject matter, rather than their actual sound, which up until the early 70s was just American roots music updated through electric instruments, and Bob Dylan was already doing that sort of thing.

I give credit where credit is due, I know that without the Stones there would be no Cream or Hendrix or Zep. But all of those artists did a lot more to define hard rock IMO. And if anything I'd give The Who the most credit for that.

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Mirrorball95

Simple. They both suck. Both are overrated, overhyped. I would rank them amongst the worst bands in all history.

boo boo

You haven't heard much music then have you?

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crash_override

Thats the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

Mirrorball95

haha you think? I have over 1000 albums on my pc, about 800 or so i actually own. The only music you know is music even my gran would know.

Neil Young, Bob Dylan,Bruce Springsteen,James Taylor,Paul Weller,Robert Plant, Led Zeppelin,love all the grunge stuff apart from Nirvana(as they suck), Alice In Chains,Pearl Jam, Mother Love Bone, Mad Season,Soundgarden,Chris Cornell,The Gun Club, Massive Attack,808 State, Orbital,Inner City, Death In Vegas,Suede,Pulp,Ocean Colour Scene,Ride,The Stone Roses, Ian Brown, Joh Squire,Kasabian,R.E.M., Last Shadow Puppets, Happy Mondays, Black Grape,Inspiral Carpets,Charlatans, The Smiths, Johnny Marr, Morrissey, Modest Mouse,Manic Street Preachers, The La's, Cast (prob my favourite indie band of the 1990s),The Coral,Kings Of Leon(pre-recent sell out era),The Verve,Frank Zappa,Jesus & Mary Chain, Primal Scream,Kula Shaker,Sonic Youth,Shed Seven,The Bluetones, Nick Cave,Bryan Ferry/Roxy Music,Supergrass, Muse,The Thrills,ZZ Top, RedHotChiliPeppers(early stuff is the best),Neil Finn,Rush,John Martyn,Ramones,Iron Maiden,Metallica,Slayer,Korn,Black Sabbath(best when they had Dio),Sepultura,Widespread Panic,Screaming Trees,Deftones,Fairport Convention,Small Faces,Tom Petty,Electric light Orchestra,Style Council, U2(early stuff is undeniably good but I still hate them),The White Stripes, Beastie Boys,The Clash, Joe Strummer & The Mescaleros,Anthrax,Faith No More,Queens Of The Stone Age,David Lee Roth,Van Halen,Deep Purple,Whitesnake,David Coverdale,Ian Dury,Madness,Specials,Ryan Adams,Foo Fighters,Motorhead,The Who,Van Morrisson,Dr John,George Clinton,John Lee Hooker,Gary Moore,BB King,Thelonious Monk,Miles Davis,John Coltrane,Stan Getz,Pat Metheny.... obviously I havent heard much music then?

The Rolling Stones get on my tits;but i can handle them. The Beatles i cannot, not one song they have written has moved me or even bothered me. They are both overrated. I like John Lennons stuff but he is long-gone & Paul McCartney sucks big time. Enough said.

Mirrorball95

What because it goes against general society's views/media standards (ie hype)?, remeber this is only my opinion which is all that the media is just somebodys opinion. I only listen to music that I like and dont live my life worshipping the media.

boo boo

Dear god, I'm having DDD circa 2005 flashbacks.

But lets see, you consider The Beatles and Stones the two worst bands of all time, and I assume you don't give them credit for anything, yet a huge margin of what you listen to is influenced by them. Gee, dissing The Beates and Nirvana? NOBODY ever does that, yeah you're a real rebel, don't let the media control you man.

These parts made me chuckle.

Whoever your grammaer teacher was, he deserves a swift kick to the balls, if their songs don't bother you, AND they influence most of the music you like, how are they the worst band ever? Because the media likes them? Because all those other artists you mention sure don't get any media attention amirite?

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crash_override

Thats great, but to deny both of these bands any sort of ability or influence on music is completely foolish. While I completely understand you idea of opinions, it happens to be my opinion that your previous statement was the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

Mirrorball95

[QUOTE=boo boo;637990]Dear god, I'm having DDD circa 2005 flashbacks.

But lets see, you consider The Beatles and Stones the two worst bands of all time, and I assume you don't give them credit for anything, yet a huge margin of what you listen to is influenced by them. Gee, dissing The Beates and Nirvana? NOBODY ever does that, yeah you're a real rebel, don't let the media control you man.

Ok, I admit I exaggerated saying they were the two worst bands of all time I forgot about Mcfly and loads of other **** that goes about that I dont want to waste precious seconds of my life even thinking about let alone typing. I just wanted to cause a stir saying they were the worst 2 bands of all time. They are at least 2 of the most overrated without a doubt but obviously there are more ****ter bands than them as I said before.
Anyway, I understand what they did at the time was unique and paved the way for a lot of future artists (im not totally oblivious to the fact). I can respect them to a certain extent but I only judge bands/artists on the quality of the music and its not as if The Beatles are not to my taste as I love the likes Of Small Faces and The Kinks who had similar sound if you know what I mean. Also with The Rolling Stones, there are bands like Black Crowes who i like. Rolling Stones I like a few tracks such as Jumpin Jack Flash,Brown Sugar, etc but to me there is much better music out there so I hardly bother listening to them. So I guess i can kinda respect them for what theyve done and all but when people rank them among highest I have to strongly disagree but its only my opinion you see so I wouldnt ever even make a list of 'best of all time' or whatever because I dont think it would be fair as everyone has differing tastes. I just listen to what moves me/what I like. (presumably like anybody else)
As for the rebel comments, I am not rebellng against anything, I dont have a problem with people listening to Beatles/Stones, Im simply giving my opinion in a rather flamboyant way lol. I just dont like them/you do. Can we leave it at that?
Also I saw your playlist and you actually have quite good taste(Neil Young amongst others I saw & cant remember) so I must apologise for the scathing attack and I will reveal my Gran doesnt listen to any music lol.