The Rolling Stones vs. The Beatles (blues, bass, pop, psychedelic)

antman188 · 09-25-2005, 02:21 PM

I would have to say the Beatles. If not because of the amazing songwriting of lennon/mccartney, then because of the range of music they produced, in terms of different styles they were able to play. The Stones were awesome, of course no one denies that, but, IMO, Beatles win over them.

However, I would be very hesitant to say they are the greatest rock band of all time. Led Zeppelin and The Who are first in my mind to be contenders for that title.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 09-25-2005, 03:07 PM

http://www.musicbanter.com/showthread.php?t=4392

Jo is gonna kill me when she reads this

Josephine · 09-25-2005, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

http://www.musicbanter.com/showthread.php?t=4392

Jo is gonna kill me when she reads this

The Stones were never - NEVER NEVER NEVER - better than the Beatles...

They were real Rock & Roll, dirty - compared to the Beatles - and I love their music, but the Lennon/McCartney songwriter duo can't be beaten. Never. You got this?

But your taste in music is obscure anyway...

TheBig3 · 09-25-2005, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HunterTyler

The beatles by a long shot, the abbey road album has songs which are still musicly ahead of stuff today

thats a lie.

TheBig3 · 09-25-2005, 06:33 PM

The Rolling Stones are legendary and they still keep playing. I think we can see what would have happened had the beatles stayed together.

The Rolling Stones have yet to die, their new disc opened in the top 5. And while I know you don't think its a mark of success, not just any band can charge 500 dollars and sell otu stadiums. People pay, and people go because the stones throw down live like no other band. Jack White said when he was opening for them that they were arguing on how to play satisfaction during rehersal. A band that cares about every song, no matter how many times they've played it, thats a band that plays because they love music.

The Rolling Stones are probably the greatest band of all time. They are an exact testiment to what a band is, 4 guys (occationally 5) who live to play music, and they never retire, and they never quit, and they still make songs that people love.

"If the Beatles were let it be, the stones were let it bleed."

Josephine · 09-26-2005, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

The Rolling Stones are legendary and they still keep playing. I think we can see what would have happened had the beatles stayed together.

Don't you think that they existed...eh... quite a long time? I mean, not long enough though, but anyway. It's not like they had one single hit or one successful album, they were legendary - just as the Stones - and they still are. Without the Beatles, everything that followed would have been different. The gift they gave to us still remains: A huge, precious amount of beautiful, incredible and unique songs.
The Stones might still exist, but hmmm... I like the Stones for what they were in the past, but they turned into something slightly ridiculous long long time ago... What about: You should stop on top of your career. That's the point when you realise that henceforth - you'll only fall down.
The Stones never seemed to realise...

boo boo · 09-26-2005, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

The Rolling Stones are legendary and they still keep playing. I think we can see what would have happened had the beatles stayed together.

The Rolling Stones have yet to die, their new disc opened in the top 5. And while I know you don't think its a mark of success, not just any band can charge 500 dollars and sell otu stadiums. People pay, and people go because the stones throw down live like no other band. Jack White said when he was opening for them that they were arguing on how to play satisfaction during rehersal. A band that cares about every song, no matter how many times they've played it, thats a band that plays because they love music.

The Rolling Stones are probably the greatest band of all time. They are an exact testiment to what a band is, 4 guys (occationally 5) who live to play music, and they never retire, and they never quit, and they still make songs that people love.

"If the Beatles were let it be, the stones were let it bleed."

In less than half a decade, The Beatles made Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt Pepper, Magical Mystery Tour, The White Album, Let it be and Abbey Road...Were the stones able to make that many great albums in such a short time period?, i don't think so.

TheBig3 · 09-26-2005, 01:25 PM

To both of you ill say the following: I don't make statements to have them accepted. I say things for two reasons. I either believe them, or because im sick of the prevailing opinion. This one statement happens to be both.

To Josepy - Quitting at the top of your career means you were in it for the fame. Bands that keep playing love the music. Im interested in your opinion of "A Bigger Bang" because I don't see a problem with that CD at all. Please tell me how its the stones falling. Because its no Gimmie Shelter or Tumbling Dice. I think your high regard of the beatles is the lore and the overall vibe toward them. You're told their the greatest, so you say so. If you disagree with that last sentence, then tell me why a band must quit when they stop making hit singles.

To Boo boo- Kicking out a bunch of great albums is fine, but it doens't speak to the longevity of a bands career. They (the Stones) had a pretty good run in there and I'd like to reitterate. Are still going. Are the Beatles still able to put on an amazing show in their 60's hard to say. But we know the stones can. And by the way, When McCartney played the super bowl, he only played Bass on one of the two songs he had a bass in his hand. The Stones wouldn't ever using backing tracks for instruments.

Don't get me wrong, I love the beatles, but their no rolling stones.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 09-26-2005, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

In less than half a decade, The Beatles made Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt Pepper, Magical Mystery Tour, The White Album, Let it be and Abbey Road...Were the stones able to make that many great albums in such a short time period?, i don't think so.

Well the Stones knocked out Let It Bleed , Beggers Banquet , Sticky Fingers & Exile in just a few years, but thats only half the story. I`d say the Stones became the success they did from being one of the best if not the best live act on the planet over the past 40 years , and with only 3 line up changes too.

I`ve always said it , The Beatles = Biggest influence on pop music
The Stones = Biggest influence on rock music

boo boo · 09-26-2005, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

To Boo boo- Kicking out a bunch of great albums is fine, but it doens't speak to the longevity of a bands career. They (the Stones) had a pretty good run in there and I'd like to reitterate. Are still going. Are the Beatles still able to put on an amazing show in their 60's hard to say. But we know the stones can. And by the way, When McCartney played the super bowl, he only played Bass on one of the two songs he had a bass in his hand. The Stones wouldn't ever using backing tracks for instruments.

Don't get me wrong, I love the beatles, but their no rolling stones.

Well, longevity doesnt always make you great, it dosent make them greater anyway, at least in my opinion, i mean how long have Styx been together?, 30 years?

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09-25-2005, 02:21 PM	#51 (permalink)
antman188 Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Penny Lane Posts: 93	I would have to say the Beatles. If not because of the amazing songwriting of lennon/mccartney, then because of the range of music they produced, in terms of different styles they were able to play. The Stones were awesome, of course no one denies that, but, IMO, Beatles win over them. However, I would be very hesitant to say they are the greatest rock band of all time. Led Zeppelin and The Who are first in my mind to be contenders for that title. __________________ Standing on a hill in my mountain of dreams, Telling myself it’s not as hard, hard, hard as it seems.

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09-25-2005, 06:33 PM	#55 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	The Rolling Stones are legendary and they still keep playing. I think we can see what would have happened had the beatles stayed together. The Rolling Stones have yet to die, their new disc opened in the top 5. And while I know you don't think its a mark of success, not just any band can charge 500 dollars and sell otu stadiums. People pay, and people go because the stones throw down live like no other band. Jack White said when he was opening for them that they were arguing on how to play satisfaction during rehersal. A band that cares about every song, no matter how many times they've played it, thats a band that plays because they love music. The Rolling Stones are probably the greatest band of all time. They are an exact testiment to what a band is, 4 guys (occationally 5) who live to play music, and they never retire, and they never quit, and they still make songs that people love. "If the Beatles were let it be, the stones were let it bleed." __________________ I've moved to a new address

09-26-2005, 01:25 PM	#58 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	To both of you ill say the following: I don't make statements to have them accepted. I say things for two reasons. I either believe them, or because im sick of the prevailing opinion. This one statement happens to be both. To Josepy - Quitting at the top of your career means you were in it for the fame. Bands that keep playing love the music. Im interested in your opinion of "A Bigger Bang" because I don't see a problem with that CD at all. Please tell me how its the stones falling. Because its no Gimmie Shelter or Tumbling Dice. I think your high regard of the beatles is the lore and the overall vibe toward them. You're told their the greatest, so you say so. If you disagree with that last sentence, then tell me why a band must quit when they stop making hit singles. To Boo boo- Kicking out a bunch of great albums is fine, but it doens't speak to the longevity of a bands career. They (the Stones) had a pretty good run in there and I'd like to reitterate. Are still going. Are the Beatles still able to put on an amazing show in their 60's hard to say. But we know the stones can. And by the way, When McCartney played the super bowl, he only played Bass on one of the two songs he had a bass in his hand. The Stones wouldn't ever using backing tracks for instruments. Don't get me wrong, I love the beatles, but their no rolling stones. __________________ I've moved to a new address