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Stones | 1,000,000,059 | 99.90% | |
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01-20-2007, 12:16 PM | #471 (permalink) |
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"And I suppose the Beatles wern`t , what with movies , dolls , and tons & tons of merchendise aimed at teenage girls , seriously get off your high horse."
We were clearly talking about their MUSIC. The fact that you have to keep bringing up total irrelevancies doesn't help your already failed arguments. The movies and merchandise are just one more clear proof that the Beatles were overwhelmingly superior to and more popular than the Stones. The public WANTED Beatles movies and merchandise. All of their movies were tremendously popular, while virtually nobody was interested in a Stones movie. Beatles merchandise over the years has out-sold Stones merchandise by hundreds to one---yet more proof of Beatles dominance. And at least the Beatles appealed to a lot of teenage girls! Talk about cheesy merchandise--years ago you could buy men's underwear with the Stones' trademark bright red tongue and lips imprinted on the crotch---the UBER G*Y Stones! "If you bother to listen to the 'Some Girls' album which you clearly have not , or at least not for a while you`ll know that 'Miss You' is the only disco song on there , myself I just see it as an extention of the soul & funk that was ALREADY an influence in their music. As for the album itself it`s generally considered one of their best albums since Exile On Main Street and has some of their most aggressive rock songs on it as well as stuff like Shattered & Beast Of Burden which are considered among 2 of their best songs they ever wrote." More clear proof that you don't have a clue what you're talking about. I bought the album on the original vinyl in 1978, when it was first released. I never said that all the songs were disco, I also clearly mentioned CRAP-POP songs. "Shattered" and "Beast of Burden" were sleazy pop songs, and a clear betrayal of their roots. Gee, I thought you Stones fanboys liked the Stones so much because of their alleged "dark side". You call those songs "dark"?! Anybody who's not a fanboy calls them what they are---third-rate lightweight pop songs aimed at the mass market---and pathetic compared to their earlier music. "Well i`m not a Stones fanboy they`re just one of many bands I like. But to claim the Stones are only about money & The Beatles were only in it for music is laughable.Especially with the 'New' Beatles album currently in the shops.And then there was the Lennon graverobbing for that other compilation that came out a while ago which were never even supposed to be Beatles songs in the first place.Your arguement is starting to look a bit shaky there." I never said the Beatles were in it strictly for the music, so your argument has been completely shaken to pieces. I said that the Stones were two dollar whores who sold out with disco and pop-crap like what they released on "Some Girls". The fact that you think it's one of their best albums, is a clear indicator of your "taste" in music. Bottom line---the Stones sold out like the two dollar whores they are---the Beatles never sold out. "Maybe if Yoko Ono didn`t exist you`d have a point." Maybe if Yoko Ono had been a member of the Beatles, which she was not, YOU would have a point. Which you clearly don't. Not to mention that you clearly don't have a credible argument, or you wouldn't have to make such an irrelevant and nonsensical statement. Paul, George and Ringo couldn't stand the woman, and took issue with John bringing her to practice and recording sessions.
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01-20-2007, 01:15 PM | #472 (permalink) |
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Already failing arguements?
I`m just expressing an opinion as to why I prefer the Stones over the Beatles , you were the one that came in here & started telling me I was wrong, going on & on about 'facts' & record sales and all that rubbish.And as i`ve never seen you in any other part of the forum other than this thread please don`t lecture me on how good or bad my taste in music is.At least i`m not some myopic Beatles fan who can`t give credit to anyone else.
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01-21-2007, 09:51 AM | #474 (permalink) |
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urbz your yoko arguement doesnt hold at all. As musical fellow has said, she was NOT a member of the beatles, nor was she an accepted part of the structure. She's basically a money grabbing whore whos played upon her past relationship with Lennon to make money. Although, 'miss you' isnt a bad song.
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01-21-2007, 11:08 AM | #475 (permalink) |
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What arguement? It was an off the cuff comment.
I`m just making observations on both bands ,and what surrounds them. I`m not trying to argue everything the Stones do is great and everything the Beatles do is rubbish i`ll leave those kind of arguements to Music Man. When people say 'music whore' to me I usually think of Yoko Ono & Courntey Love long before I think of the Stones , so I mentioned it.
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01-26-2007, 09:44 PM | #476 (permalink) | |
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I don't give a rats ass if they said, "hey lets write this song so I can get a bigger house", if the song is good, whats the problem. Your soap box breaking wide-eyed idealism is disturbing, the song is good. Whats the lowest common denominator here? Disco? The song? The Stones? By the way; Laughing Icon = Arrogance.
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01-27-2007, 03:34 AM | #478 (permalink) |
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The Stones. To me its not got anything to with attitude or anything like that, its just to do with the songwriting of Jagger and Richards. My personal opinion of the Beatles is that they were just overhyped as much as you possibly could be, Lennon included, with maybe a dozen really good songs at a stretch.
Without George Martin theyd have just been thought of as a run of the mill pop band, a bunch of nice lads from Liverpool with nice songs but so what?
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01-27-2007, 03:47 AM | #480 (permalink) |
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Wasnt pretty much every innovation, from the Leslie speaker to the the tape experimentation Martin's idea?
Plus its well known multitracking didnt exist in the advanced form it exists today. Martin used his knowledge of recording techniques to create massive, symphonic sounding tracks using 4 track machines. Without Martin they wouldnt have been able to do this.
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