Jimi Hendrix

blastingas10 · 03-09-2012, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RezZ

I know what you mean about feeling really overwhelmed. Thats how I felt months back when we were talking about learning little wing. Once you do it though it is an amazing feeling. Learning an acdc song is great and all but when you get a challenging piece of music that you really enjoy listening to it is a feeling rivaled by none other than maybe an earth shattering orgasm. I think I will try and learn lenny next. Im sure it will take me a while so dont hold your breath for the video.

Also I have a question. I have learned most of the dorian postitions on the fretboard and am working on my speed playing them. My problem is finding licks that incorporate the scales/mode that sound different than the blatent maj/min pentatonic. All I have thought of doing is finding artists like Santana and such that are known for playing in it and trying to flesh out some of the licks I hear on the record. I guess I could also just search youtube for some, but I feel like their must be a better way. Any advice?

What do you mean? Your problem is finding licks that incorporate the dorian and pentatonic, but don't sound blatantly like the pentatonic?

Bloozcrooz · 03-09-2012, 07:47 PM

Sounds like your where I'm at rezz. I've dabbled a little with the Dorian modes myself and wouldn't mind hearing some input on that. As you said YouTube is always an option but every extra bit of information is helpful. Guess I'm just a worthless guitar wanker.

blastingas10 · 03-09-2012, 07:51 PM

I'm a little confused as to what ya'll are having trouble with. Sounds like I'm around the same spot as ya'll.

Dr_Rez · 03-09-2012, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bloozcrooz

Sounds like your where I'm at rezz. I've dabbled a little with the Dorian modes myself and wouldn't mind hearing some input on that. As you said YouTube is always an option but every extra bit of information is helpful. Guess I'm just a worthless guitar wanker.

I just hate copying licks note for note off someone on youtube. The amazing slodowner is really useful though, I can play songs at half speed with the pitch unchanged and learn licks much easier. If you want a link to a download of it let me know.

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

I'm a little confused as to what ya'll are having trouble with. Sounds like I'm around the same spot as ya'll.

Im talking about using licks that incorporate the different modes in your everyday playing. While most people use alot of those notes anyways I would like to basically have a library of stock dorian/mix/etc licks to play off of when a song needs it.

For instance if a particular progression comes on I would like to know which mode would sound good played over it and what kind of mood it would give the song, as well as being able to bust out a few phrases I know based off that particular mode.

Bloozcrooz · 03-09-2012, 09:21 PM

For me when it comes to the technicalities of guitar to much thought is never good. Knowing the tone of certain phrasing in a particular area of a solo is something im unaware of until afterwards sometimes. The memorarization of all the scales is definatley an essentail part of playing. But for me experimentation through hours of practicing is what gives me the best results. If im thinking about it, the result is usually dissappointing. The weirdest thing about innovation for me is its usually unrealized while im playing. Some of my best solo's usually happen involuntarily.

Dr_Rez · 03-09-2012, 09:50 PM

I completely agree. My favorite recordings of my playing happens when I was just going with it not thinking, and listening back im usually like wtf was that, and how could I ever do that again.

Bloozcrooz · 03-09-2012, 10:31 PM

Lol..yup. For me whenever I cover a song I try to memorize it exzactly the way it was played first and expand from there. After I get familiar with playing it im able to elaborate and tweek it with my own style of play. Usually after many grueling hours (depending on the song complexity) of practicing it over and over and over to the point of exaustion. Some of it is repetition from a practiced technique and then it may evolve into an area of its own unbeknownst to me. Someone said it best when they said you spend hours learning all different types of scales. Then the rest of your life learning how to make it not sound like your following the pattern of a scale.

Howard the Duck · 03-10-2012, 03:20 AM

i'm not really interesting in vid-ing myself playing covers

my woodshedding years are over

i'd rather vid originals

blastingas10 · 03-10-2012, 05:52 AM

Sometimes the best stuff you will come up with is spontaneous, just getting caught in the moment. I think that adds a little more feel to it. You can definitely put to much thought into it.

As far as knowing what scales/modes to play over a certain progression, I'm not too sure. Each scale has it's own qualities. Some sound dark, some sound light and uplifting, etc. I'm not too sure how you would which one to use over a certain progression. It depends on what you're trying to achieve. Like y'all were saying, sometimes you just get caught in the moment and play something that sounds really cool, and you know, if it works it works. I think it helps to experiment. Use one scale/mode and then go to another till you find something you like.

Of course there's always the Hendrix method of just playing without really knowing what you're doing when it comes to scales. It's always amazed how he did that. I've found it to be easier when you know the rules and you know some theory.

Dr_Rez · 03-10-2012, 10:44 PM

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Of course there's always the Hendrix method of just playing without really knowing what you're doing when it comes to scales. It's always amazed how he did that. I've found it to be easier when you know the rules and you know some theory.

He knew a lot more than you think. Look at this vast list of bands he played in before the one we all know. It would be impossible to have put out that much work in that many types of bands without picking up ALOT of theory along the way.

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blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	Sometimes the best stuff you will come up with is spontaneous, just getting caught in the moment. I think that adds a little more feel to it. You can definitely put to much thought into it. As far as knowing what scales/modes to play over a certain progression, I'm not too sure. Each scale has it's own qualities. Some sound dark, some sound light and uplifting, etc. I'm not too sure how you would which one to use over a certain progression. It depends on what you're trying to achieve. Like y'all were saying, sometimes you just get caught in the moment and play something that sounds really cool, and you know, if it works it works. I think it helps to experiment. Use one scale/mode and then go to another till you find something you like. Of course there's always the Hendrix method of just playing without really knowing what you're doing when it comes to scales. It's always amazed how he did that. I've found it to be easier when you know the rules and you know some theory. Last edited by blastingas10; 03-10-2012 at 06:01 AM.