Tony Iommi or Jimmy Page? - Music Banter Music Banter

Go Back   Music Banter > The Music Forums > Rock & Metal > Rock N Roll, Classic Rock & 60s Rock
Register Blogging Today's Posts
Welcome to Music Banter Forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with over 70,000 other registered members. After you create your free account, you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 1,100,000 posts.

View Poll Results: Tony Iommi or Jimmy Page?
Tony Iommi 50 40.98%
Jimmy Page 72 59.02%
Voters: 122. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-29-2012, 02:59 AM   #51 (permalink)
Live by the Sword
 
Howard the Duck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
Posts: 9,075
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Necromancer View Post
I will mention Alex Lifeson. More often underrated in comparison to the popularity of Iommi and Page.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RezZ View Post
Not among guitar fans. Anyone who is a musician always says great things about him. Its everyone else that doesnt. Its because he doesnt fit the rockstar personality and look. Kind of sad really.
Lifeson is great. Yes, he seldom gets mention in most "best guitarist" polls.

Yes, most musicians will say good things about him, but i don't think they rate him on the level of the other two mentioned by Necromancer.
__________________


Malaise is THE dominant human predilection.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Virgin View Post
what? i don't understand you. farming is for vegetables, not for meat. if ou disagree with a farming practice, you disagree on a vegetable. unless you have a different definition of farming.
Howard the Duck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2012, 03:39 AM   #52 (permalink)
Music Addict
 
blastingas10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,126
Default

BB king has some pretty epic guitar faces as well
blastingas10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2012, 05:11 PM   #53 (permalink)
SOPHIE FOREVER
 
Frownland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: East of the Southern North American West
Posts: 35,541
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Il Duce View Post
Lifeson is great. Yes, he seldom gets mention in most "best guitarist" polls.

Yes, most musicians will say good things about him, but i don't think they rate him on the level of the other two mentioned by Necromancer.
I see him as a guitarist that's just as creative and skilled as the two guitarists of this thread.
__________________
Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.

Frownland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2012, 09:49 PM   #54 (permalink)
Music Addict
 
blastingas10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,126
Default

I don't really see him being as innovative as Iommi.
blastingas10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2012, 09:52 PM   #55 (permalink)
SOPHIE FOREVER
 
Frownland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: East of the Southern North American West
Posts: 35,541
Default

Innovative? Not as much as Iommi. But Lifeson's style was as unique for his time as Iommi's was.
__________________
Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.

Frownland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2012, 05:14 AM   #56 (permalink)
Groupie
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Denmark
Posts: 17
Default

This is a hard one...

In terms of brute force and power, I'd definitely go with Iommi, both him and Page focused a lot on the mammoth riff, but there was always more of a raw appeal and loudness to Iommi's riff work than Page's, in some sense, Page's riffs sound soft in comparison.

However I also feel that this softness in Page's riffs gives him more room to extrapolate and launch into the solos, I feel Iommi's solos are too clean and predictable whereas Page's solos are truly wild and untamed, sometimes I think Iommi's powerful riffs works against him in this regard, because the solos become more like passages than true break-outs (in some sense I just want Iommi to return to his powerful riffs and therefore I disregard his solos).

From a heavy metal perspective I'd definitely choose Iommi. (For his mammoth riffs).

From a "classic" rock perspective I'd definitely choose Page. (For his guitar solos).

I have to give the point in favor to Page though, mostly thanks to John Bonham and how marvelously they worked together.
__________________
The 60's was the best period for rock and soul

the 70's was the best period for progressive and psychedelic

the 80's was the best period for dance music and metal

the 90's was the best period for alternative and punk

...the 00's was the best period for compilation albums
Yield Bitch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2012, 01:25 PM   #57 (permalink)
Registered Jimmy Rustler
 
Dr_Rez's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 5,360
Default

Excuse me but Bill Ward was a super mother ****er. Have you ever seen a live video of War Pigs? Talk about working well with your band!

Id take Ward over Bonham every day of the week!
__________________
*Best chance of losing virginity is in prison crew*
*Always Checks Credentials Crew*
*nba > nfl crew*
*Shave one of my legs to pretend its a girl in my bed crew*
Dr_Rez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2012, 01:37 PM   #58 (permalink)
The Sexual Intellectual
 
Urban Hat€monger ?'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Somewhere cooler than you
Posts: 18,605
Default

I know nothing about technical ability or any of that shit but it's always puzzled me why John Bonham is so highly rated & Bill Ward isn't.
His style always reminded me somewhat of a jazz drummer, he always seemed more versatile to me.
__________________



Urb's RYM Stuff

Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.
Urban Hat€monger ? is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-27-2012, 02:14 PM   #59 (permalink)
Music Addict
 
blastingas10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,126
Default

I agree, Bill was a great drummer. Listen to Hand of Doom, he does some smooth jazzy drumming, followed by such a smooth bass line from geezer. It's pretty jazzy, and then they crank up the tempo, such a great song.


06 Hand of Doom- Black Sabbath - YouTube

Bonham was great, but I think someone like Mitch Mitchell is every bit as good, probably better, and he doesn't get near as much praise as Bonham.

I think Iommi has some great solos. He doesn't even really do any riffing in this one, just some great (although faint) soloing. How can a song be this cool and trippy? This song also shows off some sweet percussion from Bill.

Planet Caravan - Black Sabbath - YouTube
blastingas10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2012, 06:38 PM   #60 (permalink)
Ba and Be.
 
jackhammer's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: This Is England
Posts: 17,331
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger View Post
I know nothing about technical ability or any of that shit but it's always puzzled me why John Bonham is so highly rated & Bill Ward isn't.
His style always reminded me somewhat of a jazz drummer, he always seemed more versatile to me.
In commercial terms Sabbath are not regarded enough when put against Zeppelin which is ridiculous because Ward was never predictable. He was as heavy as **** but had amazing little flourishes that complimented Sabbath (along with Geezers bass playing) and gave them a very unique sound whereas Zeppelin are just a heavy Blues band that happened to have a great frontman and more commercially appealing songs.

As a guitarist in the technical sense Page is far better than Iommi but in terms of original sound and texture Iommi is miles ahead. No one will ever come close to his riffs in Metal (but that is the whole point. Metal is still frowned upon so he will never get the accolades he deserves outside of the genre).
__________________

“A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”
jackhammer is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Similar Threads



© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.