Terrapin_Station

Heck, playing drumset along with "Back in Black", so that one has anywhere near the feel/groove, dynamics, nuances, phrasing, tone, etc. of Phil Rudd is quite hard. And I've seen people time and again think that that sort of thing is easy, yet fall on their face when they try to do it--because over the years, I've taught tons of drum, bass and keyboard students in between my other musical activities.

Frownland

Lmao. You thinking that my firmly stated opinion is a statement of fact is adorable.

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Terrapin_Station

Well, there's a fact that someone is ignorant of (whatever particular stable of) guitarists or not, and expressing particular opinions either implies ignorance on that end or not, right?

Frownland

Nostalgia and ignorance are two very easy ways to explain why someone would have someone like Page as one of your favourites.

You're a bit of a literalist, aren't you?

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Terrapin_Station

In discussions in this vein, where we're talking about something philosophical, for example, I am, yes, and for good reason in my opinion.

Frownland

So, once again, it's all on you for thinking that people are trying to establish facts when they state their opinions.

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Frownland

I think you're the only one asserting that those points are factual.

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Key

Let's just leave it at that then. We've expressed our sides, and we're not going to come to an agreement or a middle ground.

And as Frownland said, you're assuming these are facts that I'm throwing out.

Terrapin_Station

I'd be assuming that you're thinking they're facts. Clearly, it's not that I'm assuming they're facts (since I'm stating very explicitly that they're not).

So let's say that you don't believe they're facts. The problem with this is that statements like "to put him in a top 10 is negating your ability to focus on what playing a guitar actually is" make no sense if one doesn't believe that there are facts, at least to some extent, about what good and bad guitar playing is.Yeah, definitely not, especially since I'm trying to educate you in the context of the same errors I've seen people make hundreds of times.

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There are facts. The facts to which he believes makes a guitarist good.