I guess they hate house.
Still, if you're on the internet a lot then you wern't born in the wrong generation.

Touche

Though Brooklyn's got a lot more than House music going on.

Touche +2. Perhaps the indie is so quiet and subtle that they haven't noticed it. :afro:

I'm going with he's 13 and the idea of "free love" translates into getting laid.

Jimi Hendrix ain't no Jack White. Tell your friends, tell your family, and tell your coworkers because Jack White's rapin' everyone out here.

Seriously though, part of puberty these days is to jerk off to their parents in tie-dye with torn up jeans. I don't get it but I guess thats what being a kid today means. I'd be less offended by it if they didn't try to sell me on The Beatles like:

A. I'd never heard them.
B. I just didn't get it
C. They are jesus
D. They are so good that living then is better than living now.

To be honest, I'm not getting this 90's love. I vaguely remember the tail-end of it and it wasn't much fun music-wise.Those bands Violent & Funky and TheCunningStunt listed were very much a niche taste you would have only known about within a specific loop, especially pre-internet.

Well, right? Thats the problem with the 60's.

Of course no one wants the segregation, or the lack of technology, or the soviet union back, but you know...the ****ing Yardbirds...yeah man. Jeff Beck was the ****...

The past has always sucked and will always sucked. This is the best of all possible times to be alive.

You only knew about RCHP, Weezer, or Green Day if you were in a specific loop in the 90s? Was this loop the "own a television" niche?

I was born in the late 80s. Wish I would've been born in the early 80s or late 70s, just so I could been older while going through the 90s. Probably would've appreciated it more at the time, which would have been awesome because I love a lot of 90s music, but going to a show now is a lot different than seeing those same bands back in the 90s.

I'll give a lot of love to the 90s. Just a weird time musically. I feel like everything now tha tis popular or mainstream is pretty much directed towards partying/club music. Nothing wrong with partying, but I just don't see bands like Smashing Pumpkins anymore...Or old Green Day, or RATM, or definetly not Nirvana

90s had a lot of crap like Hanson, Macarena, Who Let the Dogs Out, etc but there were also a lot of one hit wonders that I thought were awesome (Duncan Sheik - Barely Breathing for example). Bands like Third Eye Blind, Counting Crows, Matchbox 20, etc were all bands I liked.

Plus 90s is the true golden age of hip hop. Damn, west coast and east coast blew up in the 90s. The list goes on of classic albums and artists... So yeah, 90s pretty much ruled musically despite the boy bands and rise of pop princesses like Britney and christina

Jesus, what the hell is with the 90's love?

I thought the 00's were really great.

You a rap fan? 90s is my favorite decade musically just because that's the golden era of hip hop in my opinion. So much greatness came out of the 90s from a rap perspective.

And good stuff didn't come out of the last decade? Or the 80's?

The golden age isn't that golden.

Gotta disagree with you there. 90s rap is head and shoulders above the 80s or 2000s. There was some good stuff that came out of those decades too, but not close to what came out in the 90s.

I think a lot of the albums that came out in the 90s are the best ever.

Nas - Illmatic
Wu Tang - 36 Chambers, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx (Raekwon), Liquid Swords (GZA), Wu Tang Forever, Tical (Method Man)
Dr Dre - The Chronic
Biggie - Life After Death, Ready to Die
2Pac - Me Against the World
Eminem - Slim Shady LP
Jay Z - Reasonable Doubt
Ice Cube - AmeriKKKas Most Wanted
Big L - Lifestylez of da poor and dangerous
Mos Def - Black on Both Sides (and Blackstar stuff)

The list goes on and on. 90s was amazing and truly is the golden age of rap

I know.
If I was born in the mid to late 70s and I lived through the 90s as a teen/adult, I wouldn't have nowhere near as much music as I do now.
I hate this thread so much because NOW is the best time to be around.
Decades of music at our finger tips.
I was just stating my favourite decade for music (not necessarily the best) but it's completely to do with hindsight.

The 90's produced some really really good bands.
But I must admit I've only gotten to know them in the last 10 years.
Things like Calexico, Sublime, Babylon Circus, Belle & Sebastian, Counting Crows, Supergrass, Flogging Molly, The Slackers, Iron & Wine, Jamiroquai, Morphine, The National, Noir Désir, Queens of the Stone Age, White Stripes, Rancid, Tool, Friends of Dean Martinez.
I think the 90's were quite nice as a music era, Just not within the top 40.

If you're going to make wild claims like that, you at least owe it to us, as a reading public, to define what a 90's band is.

iron & wine, the national, the white stripes aren't really 90s bands

all their albums have been released in the 00s except for the white stripes debut, which came out in 1999.

Well I know its become fashionable to operate as if i'd posted nothing, but this is exactly my point. Its equivalent to calling Zeppelin a 60's band.

If you're talking about what people were listening to in 1997, it wasn't The White Stripes, and it wasn't Iron & Wine.

A band that made it's first appearance in the 90's I guess.
So I was wrong about I&W and about the National. But you get my point.
I didn't check it. I should have.

TheBig3, half the time I don't know what the **** you're on about and this is one of those occasions.

But The White Stripes main input has been in the 00s, all their best stuff has come out in the 00s.
De Stijll, White Blood Cells, Elephant.
They're very much a 00s band for me.

They are.
As I said, I didn't check that.
But I mentioned quite some other names.
I personally think the 80's were an awful time, musically speaking.
I once tried to make a list of 25 bands from the 80's that are really good.
I don't have to like them, I just want to be able to say: Taste aside, that's quality music.

I couldn't do it...

I know, I agree with you.

1) The Pixies
2) The Smiths
3) Dinosaur JR
4) Sonic Youth
5) Jesus & Mary Chain
6) Joy Division
7) Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
8) The Wedding Present
9) R.E.M
10) The Stone Roses
11) The Cure
12) The Fall
13) The Feelies
14) The Flaming Lips
15) The Jam
16) Violent Femmes
17) Dead Kennedys
18) The Replacements
19) Hüsker Dü
20) XTC
21) Meat Puppets
22) X
23) Echo & The Bunnymen
24) Galaxie 500
25) The Cramps

I could go on...
The 80s were great.

You impress me man.

I do try, so what's not to like about the 80s? (apart from the obvious)
Loads of great bands out there. How couldn't you think of a measly 25 good ones?

I don't think so. But even supposing it is true (according to you), that would be a "too anglocentric" statement. In some non-English music scenes, the 80's are regarded as "the golden age". For instance, in Yugoslavia and the Hispanic world, as Drankrsta, Scissorman and I are showing at the two respective threads in the World Music section. ;)

Big3, still think the 90s wasn't the golden age for rap?? I mean really, there were at least double the amount of great rap CDs that came out in the 90s than probably the 80s and 2000s combined.

Easy homes. I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing at the difference in perspective. I'm sure my take on the late 70s and early 80s is different than someone who remembers it well. It's just funny to me how different it is to experience the music of a certain period firsthand versus looking at it in retrospect with all crappiest stuff filtered out.

I think since you didn't really experience a lot of it firsthand you have some kind of mistaken impressions of the 90s. For one thing, for the first half of the 90s mainstream rock radio played stuff like Aerosmith, Tom Petty and Van Halen with a little Nirvana and Pearl Jam sprinkled in here and there as it got toward the middle of the decade. Around 1995 the mainstream rock stations largely changed format to be "alternative", but a lot of that was lame post-grunge stuff with more and more nu-metal as the 90s came to a close.

As far as MTV goes, I'm sure 120 Minutes (a staple of my early teens I must say) played Sonic Youth and Dinosaur Jr. videos at one o'clock in the morning, but I would hardly call that stuff "very successful".

And as for Primus, they went platinum once in the 90s, not twice, and it took the album four years to reach that point.

It's elitist to have a different opinion from you? I'm sorry but the four albums you listed just don't do it for me. Each has a couple songs I like and a bunch of stuff I don't. Am I really required to love them? Do you love every single mainstream rock album that was released during your teens?

I didn't ignore that, in fact I said the hip hop was one of the better things about the decade. But a lot of the best stuff wasn't super-mainstream.

Yes.

You've highlighted what, 10 albums? If that constitutes the golden age then the 00's were the platinum age.

80's
Public Enemy
Run DMC
NWA
KRS One
Slick Rick
Grandmaster Flash
Afrikka Bambata for christ sakes
Beastie Boys

00's
Tons of great Jay-Z
50 cent
Eminem (by the way, cheap shot putting SSLP in the 90's)
Outkast
Dizzy Rascal
MC Paul Barman
Most Kayne
MF Doom
The Roots
Lupe Fiasco
Immortal Technique

Like I said, the list goes on and on for the 90s. Lol, did you want me to list literally every awesome rap album of the 90s? There is a reason most rap heads consider it the golden age of hip hop. Yes, obviously there is good stuff from other decades. But hell, just all the Nas and Wu Tang stuff alone makes the 90s unbelievable. Then Jay-Z and Em's early stuff, plus Biggie, Tupac, Dre, Snoop, etc. The east coast AND west coast blew up in the 90s.

The only real great stuff from the 2000s is Eminem and Jay Z. When you look at the best rap albums of all-time, the majority of the ones are from the 90s. I don't even think it's close.

I would argue that the Beastie Boys and the Roots released their best work in the 90s, Eminem and Outkast are points equally for the 90s and 00s, and Jay-Z, 50 Cent, Kanye West, and Lupe Fiasco are all strikes against the 00s.

Every decade has good stuff, every decade has bad stuff. Simple.

Agreed!

This would all go a lot smoother if you just agreed with me.

I disagree. ;)

Yep, people who believe music stopped being good after 1979 or something retarded are the worst kind of people.

Everyone's entitled to a favourite decade, but to argue for a BEST decade is a bit ridiculous.

There's a fellow like this on another forum I post on. He believes all music sucked Post-1989. And he's a laughing stock.

Primus still went platinum twice and I don't understand how that happens in a world with rock radio that only played Aerosmith with some grunge sprinkled in...

I'm sure you get a lot of people from our generation listening to N Dubz and they believe anything from the early 90s is a classic tune, like Wonderwall.
But anything from the 80s is considered 'old' and they'd refuse to listen to it.

Idiots of the highest order.
I don't know which is worse... Actually, I do.
Kids being ignorant is one thing, but grown ups who are so set in their ways they can't appreciate music out of their generation.

Primus went platinum once in the 90s, not twice. And it happened in the second half of the decade which, you'll note, is not the time period I was referring to with the Aerosmith comment.

You know who the person i'm talking about is, and he's a tool of the highest order. Kids being ignorant is almost as bad and I'm surrounded by plenty of that.