I guess it would be OK to visit because of the music, but society in the late 60s did not contain not all the glamour one might think by just watching Woodstock on TV, the on going war in Vietnam at the time had the country in an uproar along with the civil rights movement, I remember when the four college students were killed at Kent State University here in Ohio by our own National Guard, or you could have been one of the unlucky few that did LSD in the late 60s and never came back from the trip, which LSD at the time was very closely related to music itself.
My era was the 70s, bands like Black Sabbath, Rush, Yes, etc. and on the other hand there were bands like Earth, Wind, & Fire. and so on.
The Cold War, played the big role in the 70s, I remember schools having drills in case of a nuclear attack, that was very scary at the time, all they told you to do was to just simply get under your desk, (and I guess just kiss your arse goodbye).
So just be glad at where you are right now in history, where college students just kill each other, instead of having the government involved. :rolleyes:

Guns n Roses as in the real guns n roses with the original line up and Im only 17 I did not start getting into audioslave until i was about like 15 and they are broken up.

That's hardly a case of being "born in the wrong generation" though.

I loveee justin bieber tho!!!!!!!!

Maybe the distant future (i.e. 1000 years) is best? Who knows what music will be around, if we still are...

The idea that the 60's were better than now is so infuriating.

How are there less hippies now? Do you want to live in the 1960's or just get laid?

I think the 60's were better than now. It's not really a commentary on how great I think the 60's were' but more on what an identity crisis the music of today has. I know there's a lot of great stuff going on right now musically, but it seems so detached from anything remotely "now", historically or otherwise. I just seems to be the regurgitation of the culmination of 60 years of pop culture coupled with a short attention span.

I will say that the 60's, at least the psychedelic era, corresponded with a massive expansion in our culture's consciousness, which was also very closely tied, and compounded by the first war in human history where real-time media exposure brought an awareness to all the injustices that were occurring all around us.

I don't think that outside of that context, the music of the 60's was any better or worse than the music of today. I just think it had a more cultural and historical relevance, if not more substance.

MORE SUBSTANCE!

On the grounds of what? They really saw the acid monster drinking coffee at their table, telling them how the solo ought to be played?

I think, if you'd like to have a worthwhile debate, you're going to need to expound on the idea that today's music is nothing more than avian worm-vomit coupled with a short attention span.

Suffice to say, dear friend, I couldn't disagree more.

My perception of the difference between the 60s and today was that there was a lot of awesome music that was also mainstream music. You could hold a conversation about the great bands of the day with just about any other teenager. If I go into one of my classes here and try to start a conversation with somebody about how great the last two Dinosaur Jr. releases have been I'm gonna get a lot of blank stares because there just aren't that many kids listening to modern rock music anymore.

Again, just my perception. Feel free to straighten me out...

First, I love avian worm vomit, That's beautiful... I wish I'd thought of it myself, however the context in which I was asserting that today's music was, "... the regurgitation of the culmination of 60 years of pop culture coupled with a short attention span." wasn't an indictment of contemporary music itself, beyond the fact that I'm asserting that it's not as closely tied to it's own particular time and place in history as much as a lot of the music that was created in the 60's was, but let's take a look at that.

There's a lot of music that was created in the 60's that was blandly unexceptional. You don't hear many people extolling the virtues of Boots Randolph and his Yakety Sax, but whether you're a huge fan of 60's psychedelia, or not, and, I'm really not, You have to understand that the late 60's was a tipping point in the expansion of our cultural and conscious awareness and one of the primary ways that that awareness was manifested was through the music that was being created during that time period. It was a very interesting and unprecedented time in our history.

Conversely, each subsequent era of music following the 60's has brought with it a new layer of musical and cultural influences, and each subsequent decade has also been affected by the compounding saturation of media influence in our lives which constantly jockeys for our attention. We are living in a time where our immediate cultural zeitgeist is the dizzying gumbo of everything that is and has been influencing our awareness since the sixties.

But really, There are a lot of things that make the 60's as relevant as they were. The impact of televised media was still relatively fresh and new and it's immediate impact on our awareness was full on and largely uncontrolled by the powers that be. The music industry was burgeoning. Rock & roll was a relatively new musical paradigm. The LP format had recently just become the default standard musical medium, and because of this advent, artists were releasing full length albums and creating long more cohesive musical suites precisely for that purpose. The art of studio overdubbing, invented and perfected by Les Paul, was being used to allow musicians to do things in the studio that would have, until that point, been otherwise impossible, including many of the psychedelic effects that many were experimenting with, Musicians were being much more influenced by what was possible and less by what the generation before it had done.

And on top of this, we were presented with a war, which for the first time in our history, wasn't just presented to us in typographic headlines on the front pages of a newspaper. We were inundated with images of unprecedented brutality and suffering and we, as a culture who had not seen anything remotely like it before, who had not yet been completely numbed from sensationalism being the order of the day, were deeply affected by it, and we reacted to it, among other ways, through song.

So, I'm not over here rocking' some tie die and extolling the virtues of all things peace, love, and psilocybin, (well, actually, that last part, I am). I do love me some Grateful Dead, but that's about the extent of it. And I don't think that today's music sucks at all. I own and love a lot of it. I just think that we are creating music from the foundation of a very overused paradigm, a 50 year old paradigm. There are many artists, both new and old, who have abandoned that paradigm for their own, and it's usually their music that I appreciate the most, but I do think we will be seeing another cultural and artistic tipping point very soon which will make the 60's seem as bland and uneventful as a dusty Boots Randolph record.

If you were born fifty years earlier, there's a fair chance you'd either be dead, or in a diaper.

You may not have seen the past, but you'll see the future.

If I absolutely had to, I would live my teenhood through the 50's. In that era, there were legends on so many levels that living through the 50's would be magnificient.

I would love to have been around in the early 60s, such a creative time!

I'm wondering what makes you think that we're still using the model of the 60's for todays music. If I know that, I can respond.

In all honesty, is it really better? The Economy blows, we are in a very unpopular war, although racism is better there are still a lot of racist people and sexist people. So, really the only big thing that changed is the music.

Yeah but the music now, and especially the way we can translate the music through technology to people now, is phenomenal. I think the music coming out today is a lot better than we had in the 60's.

Very true. I don't know what I would do without my Ipod. Although, I still don't think you can beat the sound of and old record.

I feel like sometimes I would have fit better into other generations, but then I'm happy I was born in this generation. Being born when I was gives me the ability to listen to ALL the music out there. Even those obscure 50s, 60s, and 70s band that only a couple thousand people have heard of. So I am thankful for being born when I was because technology allows me to find bands I might not have known about even if I had been born back then.

I hope this makes sense.

It does.
Still I like those festivals where the air breathes 'sixties' ;).
But that's just an idealised image created by very smart people in the 21th century.

^Certainly, that 'hands on experience' if you will would have been amazing. I know the world wasn't exactly a friendly place back then, but I honestly feel sometimes like the 30/40s was when I should have been born so that I would have grown up in the 50s. That life style just suits me well. Oh well, I'm happy with when I was born, nonetheless.

Ghehe, I wouldn't want to be born in the 30's because of the second world war that has raged here in de fourties.
According to my father, who is from 1947, the fifties and early sixties were a pretty good time. There was plenty for everyone and rebuilding a country together apparently creates a huge amount of solidarity.

Country probably does matter, but the 60's are highly overrated to me. I mean its this highly aspired to decade and I just can't imagine why. You've got so many more permutations of music today than you ever had then. If you didn't like what Big Music was selling you, you either made it yourself or you ****ed off.

I collect old 8 and 16mm home films.
They can give a really good image of the time and there's usually only one of them, which makes them really unique.
I've got quite some now, still having to look at a lot of them.
It appears to me that the 60's and 70's were a pretty friendly period in this Area (the Netherlands, including nearby countries Belgium, Germany, Luxemburg, France).

I recently uploaded some fragments of one of these movies to youtube.
Quality sucks, used a photocamera to do this, as it was only to show someone the old french cars that are on it :).

I'm the guy talking pretty fast most of the time by the way ;D.

Im not sure where your from, but I go to a concert with a ton of older band in July called Rock N Resort Music Festival. Its a weekend long and they book mostly older bands and tribute bands. Its awesome because I get to hear the music I love without being bore years in advanced...lol

I'm afraid I won't be joining you as I'm from the Netherlands.
That would be an expensive trip :D

We have here the 'pinkpop classic' festival, which is meant for older bands. But I think it's a bit too mainstream for me. They are thinking of creating a new festival at the location where the Lowlands festival (to which I go every year) is held. The idea is to make it like Lowlands, so with a lot of atmosphere and culture next to the music, but mainly focused on older bands. Could be very interesting, but there's not much information available on that festival yet...

I just wish I was born 18 years earlier. 1976 <3 would get the live the 90s.

I was born in 1977. Take it from me, you didn't miss much.

:bringit:

I don't know if I "lived" through the 90's. I was born in 1982 but what I remember from the 90's sorta sucked. Everyone where I grew up was either pretending they were from Compton or pretending they were Kurt Cobain.

Airwalks were ****ing everywhere and thats the dumbest, ugliest shoe to have ever caught on. Korn exploded which was fine, but everything they brought with them was terrible. The mid-to-late 90's was, musically, an odd time where the Foo Fighters and Ben Folds Five were mixed in with Squirrel Nut Zippers, Swing Music, and bands like Size 14, Monster Magnet, and the inexplicable rise of Lenny Kravitz.

MTV was officially dead by 1997 save for the constant Marilyn Manson interviews, which brings up another assanine trend. We had to put up with goth kids as early as 13. Thanks Manson.

Pogs, JNCO, some really ****ty SNL years...I think I agree with Mr. Zoon.

Somehow had the feeling you were older.
Wise man, wise man.

The 90s :bowdown:

In The Aeroplane Over The Sea
Loveless
Spiderland
Nevermind
Richard D James Album
Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
Bee Thousand
American Football
69 Love Songs
Lonesome Crowded West
Illmatic
Ok Computer
Siamese Dream
etc.

My favourite time for music, and for film as well come to think of it.

NMH and MM may have had albums then, but no one was talking about them except the real musical crate-divers. We didn't really have the internet then and so too many people where just out in the dark.

"Mainstream" music wasn't that bad for parts of the 1990s. All of these bands were popular sellers that still maintained at least some artistic integrity:

RHCP
Nirvana
Smashing Pumpkins
Dinosaur Jr.
Primus
Incubus
311
KoRn
RATM
Weezer
Green Day
The Offspring
Tool
Faith No More
Sonic Youth

(I make this list like once a month, don't I? You guys are probably really tired of me)

Also, plenty of great hip-hop during this time. And those are just the ones I like from my collection. There are plenty of others...

It's funny to me when I see a list like this because it's so obviously written by someone who doesn't remember the 90s very well. While it's true that bands like Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr., Primus and Faith No More did okay in the 90s, they were not at all what the average high school kid was listening to. Some of those other bands, like 311, Korn, Green Day, The Offspring and 90s era Chili Peppers were low points, not high points of the decade. And Incubus was much more popular in the 00s than the 90s.

But the most important thing to keep in mind about the experience of living in the 90s is how far from representative that list is from the music that was really moving units back then. The biggest hits were by people like Boyz II Men, Mariah Carey and Puffy Daddy. Hell, one the biggest songs of the decade was "The Macarena" for fuck's sake.

All of this is not to say that the 90s didn't have good music, of course it did. Hip hop, trip hop, IDM, post-rock, etc., etc., there was tons of great stuff going on mostly outside the limelight. I'm just saying that living through the 90s was far from the musically mind-blowing experience you guys seem to think it was.

Yeah, rock did seem to die out there at the end for all intents and purposes. There was some Tuesday in either 2000 or 2001 (maybe '02) where albums were released by

TOOL (Lateralus)
Weezer (Green Album)
and Staind (Break the Cycle?)

And as someone who listened to Rock radio, you really felt like it was making a comeback. I think we should make a list of all the really ****ty stuff that was killing it then. Like that Bartender song. I wish I could remember who did that Piece of ****.

"Sittin' At a Bar" by Rehab maybe?

No, it was worse.

I just googled it: Hed pe - Hey Bartender

Absolute Shit Masterpiece.

First of all, I was born in 1990 so yeah, I don't "remember" the 90s very well. Excuse me for still trying to join in on the conversation.

I don't know why we are talking about Top 40 radio. I don't give a **** about Top 40 radio, it almost always sucks. But mainstream *rock* radio was as great as it has ever been. A band like Primus went platinum *twice* for ****s sake. That is success, no matter how you try to twist it. Yeah, there was no internet, but MTV also didn't completely ignore the underground back then. Dinosaur Jr. and Sonic Youth had very successful videos on MTV, while they were also giving indie legends like Pavement and Superchunk a nugget from time-to-time too.

You really have a misguided impression of what a "low point" is if you think those bands were the low point. Blood Sugar Sex Magik, KoRn, Dookie, Smash, and 311 are all very well respected albums that sold extremely well. I think its simply elitist to brush off such acts. Plus: Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Weezer, and RATM were all clearly in the mainstream and awesome bands.

And you just completely ignored that the 90s were one part of the Golden Era of Hip Hop and plenty of those artists were in the mainstream...

Definitely...
 

I always feel that way and I was actually just talking to a friend about it this weekend. I was born at the end of the 80s, so I grew up with 90s music, which I do love, but I'm also stuck with today's talentless bands and artists. Not all of the current bands/artists out there today are awful, there are always exceptions, but blah.. I'd be happier if I had been a young adult in the 60s 70s or even 90s. But what can you do :)

You're from Brooklyn and you'd want to be born in some other time? You're in the hive of up-and-coming. What the hell?