Born in the wrong generation

**Janszoon** · 12-07-2010, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Violent & Funky

First of all, I was born in 1990 so yeah, I don't "remember" the 90s very well. Excuse me for still trying to join in on the conversation.

Easy homes. I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing at the difference in perspective. I'm sure my take on the late 70s and early 80s is different than someone who remembers it well. It's just funny to me how different it is to experience the music of a certain period firsthand versus looking at it in retrospect with all crappiest stuff filtered out.

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Originally Posted by Violent & Funky

I don't know why we are talking about Top 40 radio. I don't give a **** about Top 40 radio, it almost always sucks. But mainstream *rock* radio was as great as it has ever been. A band like Primus went platinum *twice* for ****s sake. That is success, no matter how you try to twist it. Yeah, there was no internet, but MTV also didn't completely ignore the underground back then. Dinosaur Jr. and Sonic Youth had very successful videos on MTV, while they were also giving indie legends like Pavement and Superchunk a nugget from time-to-time too.

I think since you didn't really experience a lot of it firsthand you have some kind of mistaken impressions of the 90s. For one thing, for the first half of the 90s mainstream rock radio played stuff like Aerosmith, Tom Petty and Van Halen with a little Nirvana and Pearl Jam sprinkled in here and there as it got toward the middle of the decade. Around 1995 the mainstream rock stations largely changed format to be "alternative", but a lot of that was lame post-grunge stuff with more and more nu-metal as the 90s came to a close.

As far as MTV goes, I'm sure 120 Minutes (a staple of my early teens I must say) played Sonic Youth and Dinosaur Jr. videos at one o'clock in the morning, but I would hardly call that stuff "very successful".

And as for Primus, they went platinum once in the 90s, not twice, and it took the album four years to reach that point.

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Originally Posted by Violent & Funky

You really have a misguided impression of what a "low point" is if you think those bands were the low point. Blood Sugar Sex Magik, KoRn, Dookie, Smash, and 311 are all very well respected albums that sold extremely well. I think its simply elitist to brush off such acts. Plus: Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Weezer, and RATM were all clearly in the mainstream and awesome bands.

It's elitist to have a different opinion from you? I'm sorry but the four albums you listed just don't do it for me. Each has a couple songs I like and a bunch of stuff I don't. Am I really required to love them? Do you love every single mainstream rock album that was released during your teens?

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Originally Posted by Violent & Funky

And you just completely ignored that the 90s were one part of the Golden Era of Hip Hop and plenty of those artists were in the mainstream...

I didn't ignore that, in fact I said the hip hop was one of the better things about the decade. But a lot of the best stuff wasn't super-mainstream.

zachsd · 01-31-2011, 09:55 AM

Not really. I used to think living in the 60s would be cool, but I've come to like the era I was brought up in, sort of like a parent loving a dysfunctional child. Actually, it's what I hate about it that makes it such an interesting time to live through. For instance, the last decade was complete shit, but how many people can say they lived through a war that had absolutely no meaning. And 9/11? George Bush? Fuck, I love this decade. All the people that grew up through this better go on to do something interesting with their lives.

TheBig3 · 11-30-2010, 08:52 AM

Yeah, rock did seem to die out there at the end for all intents and purposes. There was some Tuesday in either 2000 or 2001 (maybe '02) where albums were released by

TOOL (Lateralus)
Weezer (Green Album)
and Staind (Break the Cycle?)

And as someone who listened to Rock radio, you really felt like it was making a comeback. I think we should make a list of all the really ****ty stuff that was killing it then. Like that Bartender song. I wish I could remember who did that Piece of ****.

LoathsomePete · 11-30-2010, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog

Yeah, rock did seem to die out there at the end for all intents and purposes. There was some Tuesday in either 2000 or 2001 (maybe '02) where albums were released by

TOOL (Lateralus)
Weezer (Green Album)
and Staind (Break the Cycle?)

And as someone who listened to Rock radio, you really felt like it was making a comeback. I think we should make a list of all the really ****ty stuff that was killing it then. Like that Bartender song. I wish I could remember who did that Piece of ****.

"Sittin' At a Bar" by Rehab maybe?

TheBig3 · 11-30-2010, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete

"Sittin' At a Bar" by Rehab maybe?

No, it was worse.

I just googled it: Hed pe - Hey Bartender

Absolute Shit Masterpiece.

jesslovesmusic89 · 12-06-2010, 09:19 AM

I always feel that way and I was actually just talking to a friend about it this weekend. I was born at the end of the 80s, so I grew up with 90s music, which I do love, but I'm also stuck with today's talentless bands and artists. Not all of the current bands/artists out there today are awful, there are always exceptions, but blah.. I'd be happier if I had been a young adult in the 60s 70s or even 90s. But what can you do

TheBig3 · 12-06-2010, 09:44 AM

You're from Brooklyn and you'd want to be born in some other time? You're in the hive of up-and-coming. What the hell?

Queen Boo · 12-06-2010, 11:31 AM

I guess they hate house.
Still, if you're on the internet a lot then you wern't born in the wrong generation.

TheBig3 · 12-06-2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by PAVEMENT SAW

I guess they hate house.
Still, if you're on the internet a lot then you wern't born in the wrong generation.

Touche

Though Brooklyn's got a lot more than House music going on.

Queen Boo · 12-06-2010, 01:43 PM

Touche +2. Perhaps the indie is so quiet and subtle that they haven't noticed it.

01-31-2011, 09:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
zachsd Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 347	Not really. I used to think living in the 60s would be cool, but I've come to like the era I was brought up in, sort of like a parent loving a dysfunctional child. Actually, it's what I hate about it that makes it such an interesting time to live through. For instance, the last decade was complete shit, but how many people can say they lived through a war that had absolutely no meaning. And 9/11? George Bush? Fuck, I love this decade. All the people that grew up through this better go on to do something interesting with their lives. __________________ lastfm rym

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TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	Yeah, rock did seem to die out there at the end for all intents and purposes. There was some Tuesday in either 2000 or 2001 (maybe '02) where albums were released by TOOL (Lateralus) Weezer (Green Album) and Staind (Break the Cycle?) And as someone who listened to Rock radio, you really felt like it was making a comeback. I think we should make a list of all the really **ty stuff that was killing it then. Like that Bartender song. I wish I could remember who did that Piece of **. __________________ I've moved to a new address

12-06-2010, 09:19 AM	#6 (permalink)
jesslovesmusic89 Groupie Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1	Definitely... I always feel that way and I was actually just talking to a friend about it this weekend. I was born at the end of the 80s, so I grew up with 90s music, which I do love, but I'm also stuck with today's talentless bands and artists. Not all of the current bands/artists out there today are awful, there are always exceptions, but blah.. I'd be happier if I had been a young adult in the 60s 70s or even 90s. But what can you do

12-06-2010, 09:44 AM	#7 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	You're from Brooklyn and you'd want to be born in some other time? You're in the hive of up-and-coming. What the hell? __________________ I've moved to a new address