10 Reasons Why The Rolling Stones Were Better Than The Beatles (lyrics, pop)

Unknown Soldier · 04-28-2012, 12:32 PM

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I didn't say that The Who was more popular than The Rolling Stones, it's something I notice about Who fans they pretty much act like they are the only band that exist. I don't mind Robert Daltrey (I recognised that he was a strong singer) but I think others were really over-rated. John Paul Jones and John Bonham had more talented and provided a much better rhythm section than the Who's rhythm section. Paul Weller is a much much better guitar player than Pete Townsend. The Who really tanked with Tommy and didn't do anything impressive afterwards. I just think The Jam produced much better music in the 70s than The Who did e.g. David Watts > Eminence Front.

I think both Who's Next and Quadrophenia are better albums than Tommy. You're comparing John Entwhistle and Keith Moon to John Paul Jones and John Bonham, its really apples and oranges here, as all of these usually make the top-ten best bass players or drummers of all time anyway. Again comparing the Jam and the Who!!! Two different types of music really and not really that comparable. Strangely enough, the Jam song you've picked out is a Kink's cover

and as I said earlier, the Kinks were far more influential on the Jam than the Who were.

Neapolitan · 05-02-2012, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

I think both Who's Next and Quadrophenia are better albums than Tommy. You're comparing John Entwhistle and Keith Moon to John Paul Jones and John Bonham,

What I'm trying to point out that of many Who fans that think Keith Moon and John Entwhistle are the greatest (non-better) and there are some of them are totally dismissive of all other band. I was using John Paul Jones and John Bonham as legitimate argument imo against that.

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

its really apples and oranges here, as all of these usually make the top-ten best bass players or drummers of all time anyway.

If they have something in common (making it on the all time best list) than it isn't such an apples and oranges comparison after all.

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

Again comparing the Jam and the Who!!! Two different types of music really and not really that comparable. Strangely enough, the Jam song you've picked out is a Kink's cover

and as I said earlier, the Kinks were far more influential on the Jam than the Who were.

Great The Kinks > The Who even in Paul Weller's eyes.

I'm not of the opinion that nothing can compare to the first wave of British Rock. I think you can compare any thing together - it does have to be similar to be able to compare them. It's like saying you can't compare Sunny Afternoon to Rain because they're opposite types of weather.

Anyway I'm not trying to compare the whole opus of The Who and The Jam together. I am comparing the early years of The Jam and The Who, when Peter and Paul both strapped on a Rickenbacker and banged out power chords - of course the went on to be very different bands. I prefer what The Jam did in the 70's to what The Who did. Saying that The Jam is better than The Who it not so much a comparison as it is opinion. Saying The Jam out-Who'd The Who in the 70's was supposed to be tongue-cheek comment.

Unknown Soldier · 05-03-2012, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

What I'm trying to point out that of many Who fans that think Keith Moon and John Entwhistle are the greatest (non-better) and there are some of them are totally dismissive of all other band. I was using John Paul Jones and John Bonham as legitimate argument imo against that.

I'm not of the opinion that nothing can compare to the first wave of British Rock. I think you can compare any thing together - it does have to be similar to be able to compare them. It's like saying you can't compare Sunny Afternoon to Rain because they're opposite types of weather.

Anyway I'm not trying to compare the whole opus of The Who and The Jam together. I am comparing the early years of The Jam and The Who, when Peter and Paul both strapped on a Rickenbacker and banged out power chords - of course the went on to be very different bands. I prefer what The Jam did in the 70's to what The Who did. Saying that The Jam is better than The Who it not so much a comparison as it is opinion. Saying The Jam out-Who'd The Who in the 70's was supposed to be tongue-cheek comment.

In fact I've actually met and read about more Led Zeppelin fans over the years, that think there is nobody better than the members of Led Zep. The amount of times, I've had to listen to people harp on that since John Bonham died rock just hasn't been the same. Music wise though, I'll always agree the Led Zep were superior to the Who. The Who are largely legendary for their amazing live show in the 1960s and 1970s.

I know your "Out Who'd the Who" comment was just tongue-in-cheek and I was just yanking your chain a bit with that one.

Neapolitan · 05-04-2012, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

In fact I've actually met and read about more Led Zeppelin fans over the years, that think there is nobody better than the members of Led Zep. The amount of times, I've had to listen to people harp on that since John Bonham died rock just hasn't been the same. Music wise though, I'll always agree the Led Zep were superior to the Who.

In my opinion Led Zeppelin (and The Beatles) were just at the right place at the right time in music history, in many ways they was a product of their time. And as much as I do enjoy their music I never picked up they are mythologised by their fans.

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The Who are largely legendary for their amazing live show in the 1960s and 1970s.

I know your "Out Who'd the Who" comment was just tongue-in-cheek and I was just yanking your chain a bit with that one.

Pete Townsend said he got his "windmill" from something he saw Keith do. Pete Townsend and Keith Richards had else something common... they both lost guitars Pete smashed his and Keith had his stolen during a party. Not to be out done George Harrison would give away guitars and ukuleles to his friends.

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