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Originally Posted by Surell (Post 1183586)

Shattered was pretty damn disco too, especially considering the context.

In one of my Stones books Keef says Shattered was indirectly influenced by punk.

Make of that what you will.

I see it, but i'll just go ahead and say it was directly influenced by 1977 for something like argument's sake.

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1183089)

I think both Who's Next and Quadrophenia are better albums than Tommy. You're comparing John Entwhistle and Keith Moon to John Paul Jones and John Bonham,

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1183089)

its really apples and oranges here, as all of these usually make the top-ten best bass players or drummers of all time anyway.

If they have something in common (making it on the all time best list) than it isn't such an apples and oranges comparison after all. ;)

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1183089)

Again comparing the Jam and the Who!!! Two different types of music really and not really that comparable. Strangely enough, the Jam song you've picked out is a Kink's cover;) and as I said earlier, the Kinks were far more influential on the Jam than the Who were.

Great The Kinks > The Who even in Paul Weller's eyes. :tramp:

I'm not of the opinion that nothing can compare to the first wave of British Rock. I think you can compare any thing together - it does have to be similar to be able to compare them. It's like saying you can't compare Sunny Afternoon to Rain because they're opposite types of weather.

Anyway I'm not trying to compare the whole opus of The Who and The Jam together. I am comparing the early years of The Jam and The Who, when Peter and Paul both strapped on a Rickenbacker and banged out power chords - of course the went on to be very different bands. I prefer what The Jam did in the 70's to what The Who did. Saying that The Jam is better than The Who it not so much a comparison as it is opinion. Saying The Jam out-Who'd The Who in the 70's was supposed to be tongue-cheek comment.

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1185116)

What I'm trying to point out that of many Who fans that think Keith Moon and John Entwhistle are the greatest (non-better) and there are some of them are totally dismissive of all other band. I was using John Paul Jones and John Bonham as legitimate argument imo against that.

I'm not of the opinion that nothing can compare to the first wave of British Rock. I think you can compare any thing together - it does have to be similar to be able to compare them. It's like saying you can't compare Sunny Afternoon to Rain because they're opposite types of weather.

Anyway I'm not trying to compare the whole opus of The Who and The Jam together. I am comparing the early years of The Jam and The Who, when Peter and Paul both strapped on a Rickenbacker and banged out power chords - of course the went on to be very different bands. I prefer what The Jam did in the 70's to what The Who did. Saying that The Jam is better than The Who it not so much a comparison as it is opinion. Saying The Jam out-Who'd The Who in the 70's was supposed to be tongue-cheek comment.

In fact I've actually met and read about more Led Zeppelin fans over the years, that think there is nobody better than the members of Led Zep. The amount of times, I've had to listen to people harp on that since John Bonham died rock just hasn't been the same. Music wise though, I'll always agree the Led Zep were superior to the Who. The Who are largely legendary for their amazing live show in the 1960s and 1970s.

I know your "Out Who'd the Who" comment was just tongue-in-cheek and I was just yanking your chain a bit with that one.;)

i prefer the soul-funk period of The Jam than anything The Who ever did, to be honest

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1185220)

i prefer the soul-funk period of The Jam than anything The Who ever did, to be honest

The soul-funk period you're talking about was the Style Council and not the Jam.

I can handle The Jam & maybe one Style Council reference in this thread but I'm handing out infractions if Paul Weller's brand of dad rock becomes a topic of discussion in here.

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1185297)

The soul-funk period you're talking about was the Style Council and not the Jam.

You not heard Sound Affects or The Gift recently?

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 1185299)

I can handle The Jam & maybe one Style Council reference in this thread but I'm handing out infractions if Paul Weller's brand of dad rock becomes a topic of discussion in here.

You not heard Sound Affects or The Gift recently?

I know Sound Affects quite well, but I don't remember too much funky sounding stuff on it! The Gift I heard eons ago.