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starrynight 07-06-2011 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1081400)
Nah, nah, nah, the Stones started as Blues band and had their own influences i.e. American Blues and R&B - how much do you even know about the Stones? And really if anyone followed anyone it was The Beatles that followed The Shadows and lifted the Shad's sound, 'beat music,' wholesale in the beginning.

Yeah ok, the Stones didn't stick to one formula (the Blues) during the 60's and changed their sound along with every other band in the 60s, they weren't following The Beatles anticipating their every move. If anything they inspired each other, and their are some instances where the Stones were innovators. I don't understand why you want to make the Stones out to be lost puppies following The Beatles. I'll admit I like The Beatles but there is this mythologizing of The Beatles that I quite don't understand.
I'm not saying The Beatles weren't influenced by other people (Buddy Holly and others) nor that The Rolling Stones always followed them, but where the sitar is concerned it looks very likely that they did follow them. The Rolling Stones did some good music, but most people out there would not think they rivalled The Beatles. The Beach Boys were a closer rival, so were The Kinks.

Necromancer 07-06-2011 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by starrynight (Post 1081327)
An Indian pop or rock group recorded music with a sitar before The Beatles?
The first known use of the sitar in a pop music recording session was made by the Yardbirds when they hired a sitar player to play the main riff for their single "Heart Full of Soul" before the Beatles.

Unknown Soldier 07-06-2011 03:30 PM
Its a lame argument to say who did what first, most groups from that era as with other eras borrowed ideas off each other..........it was the sign of good taste and respect for your fellow artist. The Beatles just made a better job of borrowing these ideas from others and producing consistently the better music.

Nothing personal here, just get over it Stones fans that the Beatles were the superior band:thumb:

starrynight 07-06-2011 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Necromancer (Post 1081419)
The first known use of the sitar in a pop music recording session was made by the Yardbirds when they hired a sitar player to play the main riff for their single "Heart Full of Soul" before the Beatles.
It did mention them on the Wikipedia page I linked to. I didn't claim The Beatles were the first, but they were before The Rolling Stones.

And I agree with Unknown Soldier what matters is the success of the effort. Paint it Black I don't like that much, too repetitive and simple. Far too long for the music in it. Harrison did some interesting ones like 'Love You To' on Revolver, which I think is quite a successful effort.

Urban Hat€monger ? 07-06-2011 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1081420)

Nothing personal here, just get over it Stones fans that the Beatles were the superior band:thumb:
Could you recommend me a good Beatles album with soul, funk ,country & R&B influences then.

Cheers.

SGR 07-06-2011 03:44 PM
Just thought though,(even though the Stones had a longer career) that the Stones were able to make a few perfect albums in their first 7 years while the Beatles made not one.

If Octopus Garden don't ruin Abbey Road, then Maxwell does.

Unknown Soldier 07-06-2011 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by starrynight (Post 1081422)
It did mention them on the Wikipedia page I linked to. I didn't claim The Beatles were the first, but they were before The Rolling Stones.

And I agree with Unknown Soldier what matters is the success of the effort. Paint it Black I don't like that much, too repetitive and simple. Far too long for the music in it. Harrison did some interesting ones like 'Love You To' on Revolver, which I think is quite a successful effort.
People go on about the brilliance of John and Paul and quite rightly so, but George Harrison was the hidden gem in that group and the amount of bands that have covered his Beatles material, shows just how much his music was respected.

Unknown Soldier 07-06-2011 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger (Post 1081423)
Could you recommend me a good Beatles album with soul, funk ,country & R&B influences then.

Cheers.
Try the Clash, they did a far better job than the Rolling Stones of incorporating a whole load of musical influences.

Could you recommend me, a rich sounding psychedelic album by the Stones?

Necromancer 07-06-2011 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1081420)
Its a lame argument to say who did what first, most groups from that era as with other eras borrowed ideas of each other..........it was the sign of good taste and respect for your fellow artist. The Beatles just made a better job of borrowing these ideas from others and producing consistently the better music.

Nothing personal here, just get over it Stones fans that the Beatles were the superior band:thumb:
You know what Soldier? (I still laugh at your avatar!) for such blasphemy like that. Please enlighten me and explain exactly how the Beatles are a superior band? And we have all proved that the Beatles were not the first to use a "Sitar" by far.. Its already very well known that The Rolling Stones were the first ever original band that introduced the "Sitar" as an official instrument to be used by the band members, Keith Richards preferably!:thumb:

Urban Hat€monger ? 07-06-2011 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1081429)
Try the Clash, they did a far better job than the Rolling Stones of incorporating a whole load of musical influences.

Could you recommend me, a rich sounding psychedelic album by the Stones?
So thats a no then


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