The 40th Anniversary of Woodstock

Rickenbacker · 08-17-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NumberNineDream

^Everything in the 60's makes me wish i lived then.

Yeah man, Vietnam was kickass.

NumberNineDream · 08-17-2009, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickenbacker

Yeah man, Vietnam was kickass.

the US is not the center of the world.

Astronomer · 08-17-2009, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by NumberNineDream

the US is not the center of the world.

Most people from the US think otherwise.

mr dave · 08-18-2009, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by NumberNineDream

the US is not the center of the world.

so... how about filling people in on the rest of the non-US based elements of the 60s that were so amazing? the whole hippie movement directly started in san francisco after all (which indirectly spawned psychedelic music).

so unless there's another major cultural element to the 60s i'm overlooking, in this case the US actually IS the center of the matter.

boo boo · 08-18-2009, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

so... how about filling people in on the rest of the non-US based elements of the 60s that were so amazing? the whole hippie movement directly started in san francisco after all (which indirectly spawned psychedelic music).

so unless there's another major cultural element to the 60s i'm overlooking, in this case the US actually IS the center of the matter.

Uh? British f*cking invasion?

GuitarBizarre · 08-18-2009, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

Uh? British f*cking invasion?

That would be me.

*invades*

mr dave · 08-18-2009, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

Uh? British f*cking invasion?

...and where were they trying to invade? what was the target? where was the center of that matter again?...

Unknown Soldier · 08-18-2009, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

...and where were they trying to invade? what was the target? where was the center of that matter again?...

Invade= The USA, The Target= The US music market.

It could be argued that groups like the Beatles, Rolling Stones and the Who etc were very much the centre of where it was at.

Psychedelia fitted in and around all this and later blossomed prog.

boo boo · 08-18-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

...and where were they trying to invade? what was the target? where was the center of that matter again?...

Case in point it was a movement that didn't start in America. The british psychedelic and canterbury scenes shouldn't be ignored either.

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From where I'm sat, you're the condescending ass here. Dave made a reasonable post and wasn't at all offensive. The first WORD of your post on the other hand was 'Hell' followed swiftly by a little pretentious rant about how woodstock was clearly the most awesme thing ever liek omg.

Not to mention, Dave is right. For everything it did, the hippie movement was total bull**** in the way it portrayed its ideas. It was realyl nothing more than a big excuse for people to feel superior to 'the man' and toke it up. Even the Beatles realised that sooner rather than later, and they were off their faces on drugs more than most. the vast majority of hippies who could even be bothered to HOLD ideals, did so in a half assed way and basically just whined about it without ever doing anything.

Hippiecrosy indeed.

And this is based on absolutelty nothing but stupid generalization. Tell me, how was the hippie movement any different from modern youth and musical movements? Other than you know, actually making a difference and the music not being total f*ckballs.

And how does saying "Hell no" warrant a personal insult? I expressed my opinion of disagreement, I didn't insult him at all, I disagree with someone and for that I'm an idiot who wiki's all his opinions?

Yeah, sure.

TheBig3 · 08-18-2009, 07:55 AM

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Most people from the US think otherwise.

When you're talking about the 60's, we sorta are. I'm not going to get into a culture war here, but I wouldn't look at the U.S. like you look at Euro countries because we don't operate in the same way. There is nothing that makes a person distinctly "american" and so despite our arrogance, its hard to lay claim to what makes up "better" than anyone else.

You should view U.S. culture as your culture to.

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Originally Posted by boo boo

Uh? British f*cking invasion?

By 1967 America had well caught up to the Brit's if you look at music as a whole. James Brown was arguably the most dominant force out there at the time and as far as revolutionizing a sound few things compare to the godless monster of funk. He gave birth to less bands than the Beatles, or the Stones, but who's going to argue that there are better offspring than PFunk and Prince?

I'm not mindlessly pro-american. I use to think we were **** at one point but thats when I thought I knew everything. We have a great amount of value and I'm not sure what purpose is served by undermining that.

Woodstock was still **** btw.