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Howard the Duck 04-13-2012 06:05 PM

^^uh no psychedelia was all about excessive weirdness

the roots rock scene was a stance taken against it, eventually it all settled to roots rock and the psychedelic scene died

Surell 04-13-2012 06:18 PM

Grateful Dead? Jimi Hendrix? Cream? Psychedelia's key players were mostly influenced by Blues at least, and I'm sure country and folk played a hand in it.

Howard the Duck 04-13-2012 06:21 PM

yeah but it was flashy weird blues

not traditional blues in the roots rock sense

Neapolitan 04-14-2012 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Surell (Post 1177387)
Note: Along with Dylan, I need to listen to the Band.

The best Dylan you "need to listen to" is done by The Byrds.

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Originally Posted by Surell (Post 1177651)
Was the Blues/Country/Folk scene really against the counter-culture grain back then? I thought those were fundamental to the psychedelic scene.

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Originally Posted by Surell (Post 1177664)
Grateful Dead? Jimi Hendrix? Cream? Psychedelia's key players were mostly influenced by Blues at least, and I'm sure country and folk played a hand in it.

I always thought of psychedelic music as having strange melodies and using exotic instruments (stuff like making guitars sound sitars). Bands that started off playing the blues or folk ended up making psychedelic music somewhere along the line. And some bands that started off with Psychedelic went on to other things like Traffic. It seems it was all mixed up back then like where would the Grateful Dead be without their country and folk influence?

Howard the Duck 04-14-2012 01:45 AM

you have to know that The Band were pretty anti-Hippie

they went against the whole "don't trust anybody over 30" ideal by happily posting pics of their dads and uncles on the debut

blastingas10 04-14-2012 02:41 AM

Blues certainly was a part of bands like cream and hendrix but still it was quite a bit different. Whether or not all those genres are part of the counter-culture and The Band, The Band is obviously a lot different from the counter-culture. As Howard said, The Band was somewhat of a rebellion against the scene at the time.

I highly suggest that you do not take the byrds word on Dylan songs. They had some alright covers but they're nothing compared to the original Dylan songs.

Howard the Duck 04-14-2012 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1177857)
I highly suggest that you do not take the byrds word on Dylan songs. They had some alright covers but they're nothing compared to the original Dylan songs.

they were some piss-poor covers of Dylan by The Byrds as well - Just Like a Woman, Spanish Harlem Incident, etc....

blastingas10 04-14-2012 10:03 AM

"mr tambourine man" and "my back pages". Terrible covers.

Howard the Duck 04-14-2012 11:55 AM

Mr. Tambourine Man was okay - the 12-string riff is quite good and fun to play

don't think much of "My Back Pages" either, i actually think the Ramones did a better cover

also "This Wheel's On Fire" isn't that good, nor "Like a Rolling Stone"

mr dave 04-15-2012 08:25 AM

In Bob Dylan's wildest dreams he still doesn't come close to looking as badass as this

http://heartbreaktrail.files.wordpre...young-2009.jpg

I see no competition. One is still respected based on reputation, one is still respected based on his never ending ability to rock the **** out.


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