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Old 05-04-2009, 06:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I agree the boxed set is pricey but if you've tried one of Robert's albums and liked it, it's well worth the price. In addition to the albums being remastered nicely, there are live tracks and they also include all the bonus tracks that didn't appear on all the albums especially the U.S. releases. The set also includes a large book that has a history of each album and what went on during the recording. The new individual releases are also remastered and include the bonus material, so you can get them as singles, but you miss out on the DVD and the book.

The thing about getting into Robert's music is that no one or two of his albums is representative of what he does. Raising Sand was far and away different and yet got more critical acclaim than anything. Mighty Rearranger finally showcased his love of African roots. Dreamland delved into his love of the whole 60s psychedelic thing. I think that's why people often overlook him. They can't fit him in a nice, neat little genre.

I have a few live tracks from various shows throughout Robert's live history up on my website (check my sig). I'll have more up over time. I've got quite a few boots from the 90s and have most of the shows from 2001 onward.

Look for some boots of the Priory of Brion stuff. Robert never recorded with that band but some of the song versions they did were outstanding, including early workings of some of the things that showed up on Dreamland.
Yeah well Im always interested in artists who embrace different styles of music & I think Plant is one of them each album is different from the other the only 2 similar ones are the first two 'Pictures At Eleven' & 'The Principle Of Moments'. Yeah well Ive now got all his albums but it sounds really good especially to read up on how the albums were made and also bonus tracks from each session. I will most definitely be getting this soon.
By the way i checked your 'sig' assuming thats the link to the Robert Plant website but couldnt find anything about bootlegs or that. Do you have any from Fate Of Nations tour, I have the one I mentioned 'In The Mood' but the quality is pretty ****.
So what albums of his have you got? Whats your favourite?
Or did you just get the Nine Lives boxset.
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Yeah if I could get a big one, say from Neil Young or something, id stick it in. I'd just get sick.
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Old 05-04-2009, 12:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I saw him on the Mighty Rearranger tour. Fantastic show, that band was full of awesome musicians. The Plant & Strange Sensation songs were great and they did interesting takes on Zeppelin songs, too.
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I saw him on the Mighty Rearranger tour. Fantastic show, that band was full of awesome musicians. The Plant & Strange Sensation songs were great and they did interesting takes on Zeppelin songs, too.
Yeah Ive seen some stuff on youtube with some foreign lass singing 29 palms but its a much slower version.
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Old 11-23-2012, 12:09 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I was listening through some Robert Plant songs tonight, trying to find the ones that used to affect me when I had a tape and played it, usually while driving cross country.

I identified that one of my favorite songs was "The Way I Feel" because of its mood of unease and repeated discontent.

I can tell that back then I listened much less to lyrics and much more to the overall feeling of the song than I do now, because it didn't bother me then that I didn't understand exactly what the song was about. However, I do recall the chorus and my favorite line, which I felt matched the song's somber feeling well: "The mirror tries to please me. The image wouldn't stay."


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Yup, yup to the idea of feel mattering more than lyrics. I've evolved to care more about the lyrics' meaning. And I still have that cassette I had not listened to that song in full, but as of today I like it, despite not understanding the subject matter. It has Plant's typical musical and lyrical complexity, as usual in dark form. Now and Zen probably is his deepest album, though I haven't listened to any complete Robert Plant album; and I believe it's one of his keyboard-heaviest albums, which increases my enjoyment. If I had to choose my favorite Plant straightforward rock song, however, I'd pick "Hurting Kind (I've Got My Eyes on You)," from Manic Nirvana; it could even be in my Top 10 of such songs from any artist.

I think I have said this in another thread - but Led Zeppelin overrated, Robert Plant underrated.
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That's nice you still have your Now and Zen cassette. Maybe someday you'll listen to the full album.

I hadn't realized until now that you must especially like keyboards, such as in Now and Zen. (I recall you also appreciated them in your favorite Great White song.)

"Hurting Kind" is solid and I like the vocal chorus and layering of sounds in the song. I see there's a video for it, too (which of course I hadn't seen). I didn't notice videos for the other songs from the album, so I'm assuming Robert Plant also felt this was the catchiest song and thus warranted being made into a video:

"Hurting Kind (I've Got My Eyes on You)"
Roller coaster! I don't recall seeing many videos with roller coasters in them.


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Two other songs from the Manic Nirvana album caught my attention. I liked "Your Ma Said You Cried in Your Sleep Last Night" because the punk vibe and Plant's voice surprised me. His voice reminded me of Billy Idol's.

My favorite song turned out to be "Anniversary." I wasn't expecting such a gloomy, somber-sounding song after all the peppy, light-hearted ones on that album. I gravitated to this one the most. Listening to the song made me wonder if gloomy songs like this one do good by providing a place to sequester sadness away from oneself, or if they allow people to keep old feelings alive that perhaps best rest dormant.

"Anniversary"
I like the way the song expresses unrest by gradually transitioning from the calm start to the more chaotic finish.


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I can only think of a few other videos where a roller coaster is featured prominently. One of them is a great Joe Lynn Turner-era Deep Purple song....

Anyway, I'm not a fan of old-fashioned sounding songs, and therefore I have never much liked "Your Ma Said You Cried in Your Sleep Last Night." Honeydrippers stuff - bleh.

That "Anniversary" song is okay. Good at some points, but it's disjointed and it drags. I think it illustrates something about Robert Plant, at least in the first half of his solo career - solid even on the album tracks, not one of those artists with lots of "filler" material.

Interesting point on Robert Plant selecting his own singles (which harkens back to a thread of mine that flopped). I don't know if that is true, but he probably has had much more control over that than many other artists.
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I agree completely that "Anniversary" drags and is disjointed. The first time I listened to it, I almost didn't make it through the long intro. Once I did and listened to the whole song, I liked the way the dragging feel of the music could be a metaphor for this man's dragging his sadness and memories around with him when he doesn't want to. The song made me sad...so I liked it!

"Your Ma Said You Cried in Your Sleep Last Night"-- I felt it showed Robert Plant was venturing out to try different styles rather than just locking himself into one sound, so I appreciated that about the song.

I wasn't aware that musicians didn't *always* select their own singles (I assumed they did)! I also wasn't aware of your flopped thread. Ah. Now I see it. You and you had a nice little conversation there. I feel that thread topic is a good one. It's one I haven't thought about before. If Robert Plant *did* choose "Hurting Kind" to be a single, then I feel he made a good choice.

P.S. I can't find the Deep Purple song video with a roller coaster in it! Which is it?
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The video is "King of Dreams," released very near in time to "Hurting Kind."

I now remember I was distinctly unhappy that Plant didn't make a video for "Your Ma Said You Cried in Your Sleep Last Night" and that "Tie Dye on the Highway" was a live version that's far worse than the good studio track (including harmonica). Totally missed chances to promote the singles to the public (although neither would ever have been a big hit). The album wasn't promoted properly, which might have sped the decline in in Robert Plant's solo career.
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The video is "King of Dreams," released very near in time to "Hurting Kind."

I now remember I was distinctly unhappy that Plant didn't make a video for "Your Ma Said You Cried in Your Sleep Last Night" and that "Tie Dye on the Highway" was a live version that's far worse than the good studio track (including harmonica). Totally missed chances to promote the singles to the public (although neither would ever have been a big hit). The album wasn't promoted properly, which might have sped the decline in in Robert Plant's solo career.
Thank you!

I haven't thought very much before about the promotion decisions that can affect someone's career. Plant certainly looks popular here singing "Tie Dye on the Highway," and so it is interesting to learn what may have hastened the fall of his popularity:


Robert Plant - Tie Dye on The Highway - YouTube

I'm also realizing that Robert Plant made quite a few fairly complex videos incorporating grand scenery, which probably reflects the height of his fame at one time.

For example, I thought it was a cool surprise to see that the video for "I Believe" recreates the scene from Millais' painting of Ophelia. I am curious if you had noticed that when watching the video? I know you are very attentive to the videos that accompany songs, and so I thought you might like to know, in case you didn't, that they made this artistic reference:


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