Most Influential Rock Artist Ever

~~Cuthbert~~ · 12-03-2012, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelli

Like them or not, I think it's pretty obvious The Beatles have had the most influence over popular music. I don't want to undermine the other artists on the list because they were all extremely important too. It was pretty hard for me to vote for the Beatles at first though because I'm a big fan of VU and The Who, but hey, the poll question was most influential rather than favorite. I do love the Beatles though. (:

"Most Influential Rock Artist Ever"

EDIT - This isn't meant to be rude in any way, as they probably are the greatest pop act. But rock wise I don't think they're that great.

Rock N' Roll Clown · 12-03-2012, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Smegma covered bell-end

Just saying that most of the artists in the poll I've listened to and been impressed, The Beatles are as bland and non threatening as you like. Revolver sounds like something that could be sang on a school bus by all the kids.

That's pretty much what I'm saying. You haven't been impressed by the Beatles, because you haven't listened to enough music (I'm not insulting you in any way, you said yourself that you have listened to rock music only for an year). When you listen to more music I think you will understand how important, unique and amazing they were in the 60s. Their songs sound to you that childish-catchy style, because their melodies and songwriting style have been so influential and used by many pop musicians and sounds kinda cliched. The person above me said it very well: like it or not, they are the most influential (and what is more, they were also the greatest songwriters of all time), which actually makes them the greatest artist of all time.
P.S. Don't think that I'm a blind Beatles fan, there are more than 10 bands which I like much more.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 12-03-2012, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock N' Roll Clown

That's pretty much what I'm saying. You haven't been impressed by the Beatles, because you haven't listened to enough music (I'm not insulting you in any way, you said yourself that you have listened to rock music only for an year). When you listen to more music I think you will understand how important, unique and amazing they were in the 60s. Their songs sound to you that childish-catchy style, because their melodies and songwriting style have been so influential and used by many pop musicians and sounds kinda cliched. The person above me said it very well: like it or not, they are the most influential (and what is more, they were also the greatest songwriters of all time), which actually makes them the greatest artist of all time.
P.S. Don't think that I'm a blind Beatles fan, there are more than 10 bands which I like much more.

Fair.

I have heard people say that they took a sound that was innovative and happening at the time and then made it popular, how true is this?

Still can't help thinking they're overrated though (especially John Lennon). What do I need to listen to to hear them at their "best"? Revolver and Sgt. Pepper were good pop music but I've got tons of albums I think are better than those.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 12-03-2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Necromancer

I see the Beatles as being innovators in the process of studio recording, musical experimentation, etc. more so than the actual (modern) sound and style of there music today. I never was a big Beatles fan myself, and I cant remember the last time that Ive listened to any of their music. I would go with the Rolling Stones blues/rock. At the same time I rank The Who just as high on the list. The Who accomplished and broke more boundaries musically than a lot of the other bands did.

This is kinda what I was getting at with my above post, I've heard so many people say this. The music itself doesn't seem all that imo.

FWIW, I picked VU on the poll.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 12-03-2012, 05:11 PM

Influence is the most over-rated trait of praising a band.

If it actually meant something I would spend all my time listening to Robert Johnson & the Velvet Underground.

But I don't, so essentially it's meaningless.

**Janszoon** · 12-03-2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger ?

Influence is the most over-rated trait of praising a band.

I disagree. I think ass shape is the most overrated trait of praising a band.

Rock N' Roll Clown · 12-03-2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Smegma covered bell-end

Fair.

I have heard people say that they took a sound that was innovative and happening at the time and then made it popular, how true is this?

Still can't help thinking they're overrated though (especially John Lennon). What do I need to listen to to hear them at their "best"? Revolver and Sgt. Pepper were good pop music but I've got tons of albums I think are better than those.

Well, everyone takes a sound that is already happening at the time, I mean if we want a completely original and not influenced by anything music, we should go back to primitive people and the first person who started making rhythms with bones or sticks or whatever. So, the question is how much an artist can develop and improve this sound. And I think that The Beatles are one of the best examples for that. I think that John Lennon (in his solo career) was overrated, though.
Try "Help", "Abbey Road" and my favorite - "Rubber Soul" - great, great albums.

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger ?

Influence is the most over-rated trait of praising a band.

If it actually meant something I would spend all my time listening to Robert Johnson & the Velvet Underground.

But I don't, so essentially it's meaningless.

Listening to a band because it's influential is really stupid. But when ranking the greatest bands you can't take influence as a factor. Influence = what the artist did for the music and how he changed it, so it's important one way or another.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 12-03-2012, 05:21 PM

Surely without influence, music stays the same and doesn't move forward, therefore it's one of the most important things?

Urban Hat€monger ? · 12-03-2012, 05:22 PM

I didn't say it wasn't a factor, I said I thought it was an over-rated factor.

Rock N' Roll Clown · 12-03-2012, 05:37 PM

^ Although for me it isn't overrated (it's just how we understand "important" and "overrated"), you are right, too.

View Poll Results: The Most Influential Rock Artist
The Rolling Stones	12	3.74%
The Beatles	152	47.35%
The Who	12	3.74%
Led Zeppelin	28	8.72%
The Kinks	4	1.25%
Bob Dylan	41	12.77%
Jim Hendrix	37	11.53%
The Velvet Underground	35	10.90%
Voters: 321. You may not vote on this poll

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