| Anteater |
12-05-2008 05:54 PM |
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Originally Posted by jazzrocks
(Post 558200)
Funny King Crimson, Hendrix and Floyd all were influenced by the Beatles and used many of the elements of their psychedelic style.
George Harrison said and it's on You Tube when he recorded "Within You Without You" it was his goal to merge Traditional Indian Music with a Western Pop song. I don't know why this is a bad thing for some people? Using odd time signatures, exotic instruments and non western scales wrapped around melody driven music To me it's brilliant they were able to do it and it's a form of innovation.
Is it the Beatles fault that Zappa did not have the influence of them? You don't seem to get that pop music is a form of music. The Beatles merging progressive, experimental with pop music is a concept. They succeeded at it. Zappa non-pop experimental music did not. The Beatles experimental style of backward tapes, Indian Instruments, tape loops, and mellotron on "Tomorrow Never Knows" and "Strawberry Fields Forever" were done in 1966 before the Nice, Pink Floyd, Jimi Hendrix and King Crimson.
The Beatles already recorded songs with strong Avant Influence "Tomorrow Never Knows", "Love You To", "Strawberry Fields Forever", "A Day in the Life". The Beach Boys were miles late with "Smiley Smile. Like who cares if the Beatles also did their share of pop music. The Beatles also experimented. They did not play one type of music. Ah by the way this was before Pink Floyd and years before King Crimson were recording.
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Lmao. Let me lay a few things out for you for future reference-
1. The Beatles never did progressive rock of any sort. That's a genre all its own. Also, name me one artist before King Crimson who was fusing classical music structures with jazzy symphonic rock?
2. You can't just slap around a term like "avant" as if its something super special. The Beatles were interesting sure, but if I wanted to push it I could say The Shadows, Nick Drake and some early electronic like The Silver Apples and White Noise were doing far more interesting things in the mid-to-late 60's than the Beatles did in an entire decade of time.
3. Do The Beatles sound like a blues band to you or something? Jimmy Hendrix wasn't influenced by The Beatles in any way, shape or form. His jamming on UK TV back in '66 actually impressed Lennon and Co because of his particular style. If anything, he probably influenced THEM in some way.
And who gives a **** about who started using the mellotron first? Screw The Beatles: Lothar and the Hand People were using Moog synthesizers before ANYONE, yet I don't hear anyone nominating them for their influence on the, I dunno, dozens of bands that followed after 1965?
Just give me a break. You people can throw a BS argument like "More people listened to the Beatles than anyone else in that time period, so they're more influential." in my face all day long, but that still doesn't mean they top the absolutely killer stuff in terms of effect that bands would be putting out in the late 60's through the course of the 70's. |
