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Old 12-01-2008, 04:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I'd like to see the rest of that list, because picking a Beatles song as THE most influential dance record of all time (or even calling it highly influential at all) is completely ridiculous.
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Old 12-01-2008, 06:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'd like to see the rest of that list, because picking a Beatles song as THE most influential dance record of all time (or even calling it highly influential at all) is completely ridiculous.
You tell me a rock song before 1966 that uses pre-recorded samples as a musical backdrop, looping, with a repeating up front drum n bass sound. The song has influenced the likes of the Chemical Brothers, Public Enemy and Kraftwerk. Here is the list in its chronological order by year.


The 50 Most Influential Records of All Times
Under the Influence - How This List Was Made
Muzik wanted to define the records that had shaped the music we love today. The music that made Basement Jaxx, The Chemical Brothers, Roni Size and System F all possible. Not necessarily the best records ever, although they were hardly going to be stinkers, but the ones which pushed forward a genre, or fused styles to create a new hybrid. The qualities we were looking for were:

Effect on today’s music - Originality
Fusing of existing genres to create new musical styles Music that changed the club scene as well as the sound.

Chosen and written by Ben Turner, Frank Tope, Rob da Bank, Calvin Bush, Dorian Lynskey, Tom Mugridge and Michael Bonner The most important music of the 20th Century. The records which have shaped the music we hear today, from trance to trip hop, from big beat to Basement Jaxx. Everything starts with these...

The Beatles “Tomorrow Never Knows” (EMI 1966)(Revolver L.P.)
James Brown “Funky Drummer” (King 1969)(7”)
Marvin ***e “What’s Going On” (Motown 1970)(L.P.)
Incredible Bongo Band “Apache” (MGM 1973)(Bongo Rock L.P.)
Augustus Pablo “King Tubby Meets the Rockers Uptown” (Island 1976)(7”)
Double Exposure “Ten Per Cent” (Salsoul 1976)(12”)
Donna Summer “I Feel Love” (Casablanca 1977)(12”)
Kraftwerk “Trans Europe Express” (EMI 1977)(King Klang L.P.)
Grandmaster Flash “Adventure On the Wheels of Steel” (Sugarhill 1981)(12”)
Afrika Bambaataa “Planet Rock” (Tommy Boy 1982)(12”)
New Order “Blue Monday” (Factory 1983)(12”)
Streetsounds Electro “Volumes One - Eight” (Streetsounds Compilations 1983-5)(12”)
Double D & Steinski “Lesson Three” (Tommy Boy 1985)(12” promo)
Mr Fingers “Can You Feel it” (Trax 1987)(12”)
Phuture “Acid Tracks” (Trax 1987)(12”)
Techno “The House Sound of Detroit” (Ten Compilations 1988)(12”)
Public Enemy “It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back” (Def Jam 1989)(L.P.)
A Guy Called Gerald “Voodoo Ray” (Rham 1988)(12”)
Rhythim is Rhythim “Strings of Life” (Transmat/Jack Trax 1988)(12”)
De La Soul “Three Feet High & Rising” (Tommy Boy 1989)(L.P.)
Lil’ Louis “French Kiss” (FFRR 1989)(12”)
Soul II Soul “Club Classics” (Virgin 1989)(L.P.)
808 State “Pacific State” (ZTT 1989)(12”)
Primal Scream “Loaded” (Creation 1990)(12”)
The KLF “Chill Out” (KLF Communications 1990)(L.P.)
Massive Attack “Blue Lines” (Virgin 1991)(L.P.)
Joey Beltram “Energy Flash” (R&S 1991)(12”)
Leftfield “Not Forgotten (Hard Hands mix)” (Outer Rhythm 1991)(12”)
Lennie De Ice “We Are I.E.” (Reel 2 Real 1991)(12”)
The Prodigy "Charly" (XL 1991)(12")
The Future Sound of London “Papua New Guinea” (Jumpin’ & Pumpin’ 1991)(12”)
The Aphex Twin “Digeridoo” (R&S 1992)(12”)
Gat Decor “Passion” (Effective 1992)(12”)
Jam & Spoon “Stella” (R&S 1992)(12”)
Hardfloor “Hardtrance Acperience” (Harthouse 1992)(12”)
DJ Shadow “In/Flux” (Mo’Wax 1993)(12”)
L.T.J. Bukem “Music” (Good Looking 1993)(12”)
Marmion “Schöneberg” (Superstation 1994)(12”)
Dave Clarke “Red 2” (Bush 1994)(12”)
Dust Brothers “Chemical Beats” (Junior Boy’s Own 1994)(12”)
Goldie “Inner City Life” (FFRR 1994)(12”)
Robert Hood “Minimal Nation” (M-Plant 1993)(12”)
Basic Channel “Phylyps Trak II” (Basic Channel 1995)(12”)
DJ Trace “Mutant Revisited” (SOUR 1995)(12”)
Fatboy Slim “Everybody Needs a 303” (Skint 1995)(12”)
D’Angelo “Brown Sugar” (Chrysalis 1995)(12”)
Misjah & Time “Access” (X-Trax 1995)(12”)
Double 99 “Rip Groove” (Northwestside 1997)(12”)
Tina Moore “Never Gonna Let You Go” (Delirious 1997)(12”)
Stardust “Music Sounds Better With You” (Roulé 1998)(12”)
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You tell me a rock song before 1966 that uses pre-recorded samples as a musical backdrop, looping, with a repeating up front drum n bass sound.
Why does it have to be a rock song? There was non-rock electronic music being produced before 1966.

"Tomorrow Never Knows" has long been my favorite Beatles song, but once again we run into this recurring problem where people aren't content to say simply that something by the Beatles was great piece of music, it has to be the greatest, most wonderful, most influential thing ever put on vinyl.

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Why does it have to be a rock song? There was non-rock electronic music being produced before 1966.

"Tomorrow Never Knows" has long been my favorite Beatles song, but once again we run into this recurring problem where people aren't content to say simply that something by the Beatles was great piece of music, it has to be the greatest, most wonderful, most influential thing ever put on vinyl.

This is one of my favorited tracks by rock musicians since I really like Jazz more. This song must have sound radical with all those Indian drones and backward sound collages. I could see it's influence on many genres of music. I can't claim Jazz music was exactly using these concepts even though Coltrane was influenced by Indian Music.
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You tell me a rock song before 1966 that uses pre-recorded samples as a musical backdrop, looping, with a repeating up front drum n bass sound.
OK, you've got me on the drum n bass sound, but this predates it by 3 years;




...and this from 1967 should be on the list immediately after "Tomorrow Never Knows", if only for its huge influence on Fatboy Slim;



...and this, from the US, 1968;


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...and with 'Tomorrow Never Knows' that track (even the whole UFO Club proto-rave culture in London) is really prescient and captured the vibe but somehow I doubt the originators - the guys experimenting with mixing for the dancefloor in the late 70's - referred back to 'Revolver'.
I think the drugs and the club culture necessitated the music rather than the other way round, in which case you could argue the amphetamine-fuelled all-nighters of 60's mods and northern soul as being 'influential', it all bleeds into funk and disco... the way I see it the umbrella of electronic dance music was an American innovation that blossomed abroad, there's alot to cover and not everyone's going to agree.

As has been said you can blame disco, Kraftwerk and synth pop classics I guess.

If only there were recordings from that time - your speculation has the ring of truth about it, but TNK is the earliest (and most popular, hence single most influential) document of this sort of music... unless you know of some?

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The 50 Most Influential Records of All Times
Under the Influence - How This List Was Made
Muzik wanted to define the records that had shaped the music we love today. The music that made Basement Jaxx, The Chemical Brothers, Roni Size and System F all possible. Not necessarily the best records ever, although they were hardly going to be stinkers, but the ones which pushed forward a genre, or fused styles to create a new hybrid. The qualities we were looking for were:

Effect on today’s music - Originality
Fusing of existing genres to create new musical styles Music that changed the club scene as well as the sound.

Chosen and written by Ben Turner, Frank Tope, Rob da Bank, Calvin Bush, Dorian Lynskey, Tom Mugridge and Michael Bonner The most important music of the 20th Century. The records which have shaped the music we hear today, from trance to trip hop, from big beat to Basement Jaxx. Everything starts with these...
I am really surprised that the Silver Apples are not on this list...Extremely ahead of their time in terms of originality and Kraftworks influence to name one band.


Example of them: "Oscillations" - Silver Apples (1968)

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I am really surprised that the Silver Apples are not on this list...Extremely ahead of their time in terms of originality and Kraftworks influence to name one band.
I think I'd rather dance to Pierre Henry's "Psyche Rock" than "Oscillations" - or anything else the Silver Apples put out. It's interesting, from an electronica point of view, but not very funky.

The list is of acts that were influential on Dance music - and, since "Psyche Rock" formed the basis of Fatboy Slim's career, it's more of a mystery why that was left off.

There's rafts of stuff that appeared on the KPM Library label in the late 1960s/early 1970s that should be there too - practically anything by Alan Hawkshaw and his predecessor, Mick Weaver, AKA Wynder K. Frogg, Booker T and the MGs - not to mention loads of Surf music, Northern Soul, Motown etc;


1961 - The Birth of The Beat... oh, actually, that's a different track



1964 - Booker T;



1964 ...any excuse




1967 - best (and first!) cover of Sonny and Cher's original



1967 - The Frogg!



1968 - The inimitable Mr Hawkshaw



1969 - the amazing Mr Mansfield (who also recorded loads of stuff for the KPM libraries)

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