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Expletive Deleted 12-01-2008 04:05 PM

I'd like to see the rest of that list, because picking a Beatles song as THE most influential dance record of all time (or even calling it highly influential at all) is completely ridiculous.

thegoldlaw 12-01-2008 04:21 PM

Here is the song YouTube - The Beatles - Tomorrow Never Knows

I could see the influence, but #1.. I dunno about that.

The person I consider extremely influencial to not only electronical but alot of music is Trevor Horn.

Radiohead90 12-01-2008 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Expletive Deleted (Post 555956)
I'd like to see the rest of that list, because picking a Beatles song as THE most influential dance record of all time (or even calling it highly influential at all) is completely ridiculous.

You tell me a rock song before 1966 that uses pre-recorded samples as a musical backdrop, looping, with a repeating up front drum n bass sound. The song has influenced the likes of the Chemical Brothers, Public Enemy and Kraftwerk. Here is the list in its chronological order by year.


The 50 Most Influential Records of All Times
Under the Influence - How This List Was Made
Muzik wanted to define the records that had shaped the music we love today. The music that made Basement Jaxx, The Chemical Brothers, Roni Size and System F all possible. Not necessarily the best records ever, although they were hardly going to be stinkers, but the ones which pushed forward a genre, or fused styles to create a new hybrid. The qualities we were looking for were:

Effect on today’s music - Originality
Fusing of existing genres to create new musical styles Music that changed the club scene as well as the sound.

Chosen and written by Ben Turner, Frank Tope, Rob da Bank, Calvin Bush, Dorian Lynskey, Tom Mugridge and Michael Bonner The most important music of the 20th Century. The records which have shaped the music we hear today, from trance to trip hop, from big beat to Basement Jaxx. Everything starts with these...

The Beatles “Tomorrow Never Knows” (EMI 1966)(Revolver L.P.)
James Brown “Funky Drummer” (King 1969)(7”)
Marvin ***e “What’s Going On” (Motown 1970)(L.P.)
Incredible Bongo Band “Apache” (MGM 1973)(Bongo Rock L.P.)
Augustus Pablo “King Tubby Meets the Rockers Uptown” (Island 1976)(7”)
Double Exposure “Ten Per Cent” (Salsoul 1976)(12”)
Donna Summer “I Feel Love” (Casablanca 1977)(12”)
Kraftwerk “Trans Europe Express” (EMI 1977)(King Klang L.P.)
Grandmaster Flash “Adventure On the Wheels of Steel” (Sugarhill 1981)(12”)
Afrika Bambaataa “Planet Rock” (Tommy Boy 1982)(12”)
New Order “Blue Monday” (Factory 1983)(12”)
Streetsounds Electro “Volumes One - Eight” (Streetsounds Compilations 1983-5)(12”)
Double D & Steinski “Lesson Three” (Tommy Boy 1985)(12” promo)
Mr Fingers “Can You Feel it” (Trax 1987)(12”)
Phuture “Acid Tracks” (Trax 1987)(12”)
Techno “The House Sound of Detroit” (Ten Compilations 1988)(12”)
Public Enemy “It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back” (Def Jam 1989)(L.P.)
A Guy Called Gerald “Voodoo Ray” (Rham 1988)(12”)
Rhythim is Rhythim “Strings of Life” (Transmat/Jack Trax 1988)(12”)
De La Soul “Three Feet High & Rising” (Tommy Boy 1989)(L.P.)
Lil’ Louis “French Kiss” (FFRR 1989)(12”)
Soul II Soul “Club Classics” (Virgin 1989)(L.P.)
808 State “Pacific State” (ZTT 1989)(12”)
Primal Scream “Loaded” (Creation 1990)(12”)
The KLF “Chill Out” (KLF Communications 1990)(L.P.)
Massive Attack “Blue Lines” (Virgin 1991)(L.P.)
Joey Beltram “Energy Flash” (R&S 1991)(12”)
Leftfield “Not Forgotten (Hard Hands mix)” (Outer Rhythm 1991)(12”)
Lennie De Ice “We Are I.E.” (Reel 2 Real 1991)(12”)
The Prodigy "Charly" (XL 1991)(12")
The Future Sound of London “Papua New Guinea” (Jumpin’ & Pumpin’ 1991)(12”)
The Aphex Twin “Digeridoo” (R&S 1992)(12”)
Gat Decor “Passion” (Effective 1992)(12”)
Jam & Spoon “Stella” (R&S 1992)(12”)
Hardfloor “Hardtrance Acperience” (Harthouse 1992)(12”)
DJ Shadow “In/Flux” (Mo’Wax 1993)(12”)
L.T.J. Bukem “Music” (Good Looking 1993)(12”)
Marmion “Schöneberg” (Superstation 1994)(12”)
Dave Clarke “Red 2” (Bush 1994)(12”)
Dust Brothers “Chemical Beats” (Junior Boy’s Own 1994)(12”)
Goldie “Inner City Life” (FFRR 1994)(12”)
Robert Hood “Minimal Nation” (M-Plant 1993)(12”)
Basic Channel “Phylyps Trak II” (Basic Channel 1995)(12”)
DJ Trace “Mutant Revisited” (SOUR 1995)(12”)
Fatboy Slim “Everybody Needs a 303” (Skint 1995)(12”)
D’Angelo “Brown Sugar” (Chrysalis 1995)(12”)
Misjah & Time “Access” (X-Trax 1995)(12”)
Double 99 “Rip Groove” (Northwestside 1997)(12”)
Tina Moore “Never Gonna Let You Go” (Delirious 1997)(12”)
Stardust “Music Sounds Better With You” (Roulé 1998)(12”)

thegoldlaw 12-01-2008 06:30 PM

Art of Noise anyone ?

The group's mostly instrumental compositions were novel melodic sound collages based on digital sampler technology, which was new at the time. Inspired by turn-of-the-century revolutions in music, the Art of Noise were initially packaged as a faceless anti- or non-group, blurring the distinction between the art and its creators. The band is noted for innovative use of electronics and computers in pop music and particularly for innovative use of sampling

83' YouTube - Art Of Noise - Moments In Love

Also the guy who did that did these too

YouTube - Seal - kiss from a rose
and
YouTube - Video Killed the Radio Star

Doesn't even take into account how many people have completely stolen his songs.

YouTube - Krayzie Bone- Murda Mo

Radiohead90 12-01-2008 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by thegoldlaw (Post 556087)
Art of Noise anyone ?

The group's mostly instrumental compositions were novel melodic sound collages based on digital sampler technology, which was new at the time. Inspired by turn-of-the-century revolutions in music, the Art of Noise were initially packaged as a faceless anti- or non-group, blurring the distinction between the art and its creators. The band is noted for innovative use of electronics and computers in pop music and particularly for innovative use of sampling

83' YouTube - Art Of Noise - Moments In Love

Also the guy who did that did these too

YouTube - Seal - kiss from a rose
and
YouTube - Video Killed the Radio Star

Doesn't even take into account how many people have completely stolen his songs.

YouTube - Krayzie Bone- Murda Mo

I agree it's hard to say what song had the most influence or artist. The Beatles were not thinking techno or big-beat when they recorded "Tomorrow Never Knows". I doubt they were thinking hip-hop when they used backward vocals on "Rain" and drum looping on "Strawberry Fields Forever". People are just acknowledging their influence and innovation. I don't think anyone is saying the Beatles invented techno or hip-hop. But their concepts are very common in those genres.

jackhammer 12-02-2008 07:51 AM

..but all the the Original post is, is a cut and paste job from other publications. I would rather read what the average joe on the street would say than a music publication. Thats' why I post here and not read magazines. It may well be very influential but I do'nt get what the thread is about and to say they were'nt thinking Techno or hip Hop etc is a ridiculous statement. Of course they were'nt. Those genres had'nt been established at all.

Janszoon 12-02-2008 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Radiohead90 (Post 556062)
You tell me a rock song before 1966 that uses pre-recorded samples as a musical backdrop, looping, with a repeating up front drum n bass sound.

Why does it have to be a rock song? There was non-rock electronic music being produced before 1966.

"Tomorrow Never Knows" has long been my favorite Beatles song, but once again we run into this recurring problem where people aren't content to say simply that something by the Beatles was great piece of music, it has to be the greatest, most wonderful, most influential thing ever put on vinyl.

jazzrocks 12-02-2008 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 556521)
Why does it have to be a rock song? There was non-rock electronic music being produced before 1966.

"Tomorrow Never Knows" has long been my favorite Beatles song, but once again we run into this recurring problem where people aren't content to say simply that something by the Beatles was great piece of music, it has to be the greatest, most wonderful, most influential thing ever put on vinyl.


This is one of my favorited tracks by rock musicians since I really like Jazz more. This song must have sound radical with all those Indian drones and backward sound collages. I could see it's influence on many genres of music. I can't claim Jazz music was exactly using these concepts even though Coltrane was influenced by Indian Music.

Garden Hose 12-12-2008 07:56 AM

Beetles
 
THE BEETLES WERE THE WORST GROUP TO EVER BECOME FAMOUS!:nono:

Janszoon 12-12-2008 09:20 AM

Who are the "Beetles"?


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