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View Poll Results: Who deserves the title "The King of Rock and Roll"?
Elvis Presley 103 41.53%
Chuck Berry 75 30.24%
Little Richard 14 5.65%
Neither 56 22.58%
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Old 01-04-2014, 04:30 AM   #331 (permalink)
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Old 01-04-2014, 05:46 AM   #332 (permalink)
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rock n roll is kinda mix of black and white, though. Everybody took influences from everybody. But without blacks, it would be fast country and without whites jump blues...?
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Old 01-04-2014, 07:56 PM   #334 (permalink)
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rock n roll is kinda mix of black and white, though. Everybody took influences from everybody. But without blacks, it would be fast country and without whites jump blues...?
Yes, rock is definitely a mixed-race baby. Well, I guess it's more like a mixed-race dying old fart now.
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Old 01-04-2014, 08:42 PM   #335 (permalink)
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Well, I see that point, and you're right, Rock N Roll needed a white man who was able to sing like a black one, but he still did not invent anything and he wasn't a songwriter, so when it comes to music he would not deserve that title, but I dunno. I just don't personally like him, but yes, like John Lennon said, without Elvis there would not have been the Beatles and without the Beatles...who knows/

John Lennon also said "If you tried to give Rock and Roll another name, you might call it 'Chuck Berry'." Other John Lennon fun facts: he is the first man to wear a fur coat, he once slain a fire-breathing dragon, he counted to infinity... twice even, and invented slice bread.

Elvis was more than just a "white man who was able to sing like a black one." He also sang country standards too - check out the non-R&B numbers like Just Because, Blue Moon and Blue Moon of Kentucky on his debut album. Beside R&B artist he was influence by the crooners that came before him and later in life he became a fan of opera and was always trying to improve his vocals. Either you are a Beatles fan or an Elvis fan. Most Beatle fans don't like Elvis, or even the Rolling Stones, either they don't like them or don't give them credit.
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Old 01-04-2014, 09:13 PM   #336 (permalink)
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John Lennon also said "If you tried to give Rock and Roll another name, you might call it 'Chuck Berry'." Other John Lennon fun facts: he is the first man to wear a fur coat, he once slain a fire-breathing dragon, he counted to infinity... twice even, and invented slice bread.

Elvis was more than just a "white man who was able to sing like a black one." He also sang country standards too - check out the non-R&B numbers like Just Because, Blue Moon and Blue Moon of Kentucky on his debut album. Beside R&B artist he was influence by the crooners that came before him and later in life he became a fan of opera and was always trying to improve his vocals. Either you are a Beatles fan or an Elvis fan. Most Beatle fans don't like Elvis, or even the Rolling Stones, either they don't like them or don't give them credit.
This. As I said, it's as much country influence (if not more, musically) as blues influence on early rock numbers. Everyone I've met who says "blacks pioneered rock" has absolutely zero knowledge of white music before the 1950s. I'm not just saying it because of the argument I just had here, this is a very common opinion it seems. Maybe there was a documentary about this issue or something.

Maybe we need a "Rock before rock" thread with stuff like this:
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Old 01-04-2014, 11:31 PM   #337 (permalink)
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African Americans will always be snubbed of their full credit when it comes to music because the white people writing the history books are driven by that Willie lynch bullish. Black musicians always get the short end of the stick or none of it at all.

They always get HALF of what they actually created or none of it at all. They always have to "share" what they pioneered with white people and it is not fair. They never get FULL credit of what they pioneered but the industry will shove
The Beatles and Elvis down our throats in a heart beat.

If this was a discussion on country music the responses would be a lot different which is really sad and that is all I am going to say on this issue.
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Old 01-04-2014, 11:40 PM   #339 (permalink)
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Old 01-05-2014, 03:47 AM   #340 (permalink)
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What is the problem? If rock n roll is a mix of black and white? Without country music influence there would not be rock and without blues influence (and gospel and whatever) there would not be rock.

And when it comes to the topic of this thread, how can we decide who was the most important one? I dunno.

And John Lennon was a paradox to end all the other paradoxes and changed his opinions as usually as other people change their trousers so they shouldn't be taken very seriously.
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