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Oh, I agree. Phil Rudd fits perfectly in the band he's in. I believe I have stated in this forum somewhere that AC/DC is a band in which each member fits perfectly.

It doesn't take a degree to use your ears and listen and hear that Peter Criss is more talented. And don't take that to mean he's a great drummer. He's just better than Phil Rudd.

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boo boo

I disagree on that... Rudd's ridiculous simplicity could rival that of Meg White, but i have never heard him miss a beat, live or in studio... He plays his parts precisely and perfectly (like White), sure that may not be much of a challenge since they are all fairly easy parts to begin with, but his timing is great.... He has never played anything remotely impressive or technically hard.... But because he has never even attempted to do so, it may be because he lacks the ability to play fast, complex lines OR it could either be because he refuses to simplify his sound to suit the bands less is more style, thing is we don't realy know, for all we know the guy can play Rat Salad note for note.... AC/DCs rhythms and beats were always basic and subtle... With KISS, Criss would churn out big drum solos, sometimes he can do a decent solo and other times he would be very inept... He can do his simple drumlines just fine, but when he ventured out of his technical limit he could be a disaster, he often showed off at times when he didn't really have to, this may be hypocritical from a prog fan, but the primary lession here is don't show off if you have nothing to show off... Thats my problem with KISS... If they just stuck to simple songs all the time like AC/DC, that would be great... But too often they would try something that was beyond their league.... They could make some great pop rock albums (Destroyer, Love Gun) but they could also make some genuine crap (Dynasty, nearly everything from the 80s)... And way too many times they have alientated their fanbase by making way too many ill conceived crossover atempts (Disco, Prog, Soft Rock) that overall it really damaged their reputation as a solid hard rock band with a rebel image... But this is only my opinion after all, so you can just take it with a grain of salt, that would be best advised.

^ Free kewpie doll for anyone with a long enough attention span to read all this.

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Seltzer

Yeah, I was wondering what "Carr" was referring to - I always thought that was Peter Criss.

Oh well, I'm not ashamed for being ignorant of Kiss' lineup changes .

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ACDC all the way. When Metal was almost dead by the late 70 and early 80 because Punk Rising and bon scott's and John Bonham death, and ozzy departure from black sabbath. Kiss could have been the only bad to keep Hard Rock or Heavy metal alive . And they pull out a ****ing Disco Album in 1979 WTF??? We had to wait untill Judas Priest To reinvent Heavy Metal and Lead the NWOBHM.

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"Stained Class", "Hell Bent For Leather", "Bomber", "Overkill", "Van Halen", "Killers", "Iron Maiden", ...

Ring any bells?

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Metalyears

Damn your too young you don't understand those albums were out but they weren't known. It took judas priest more then 10 years to gain it recognition and then dave murray and steve harris recognition came after Judas Priest. See that is why they are called the Metal Gods. The Band To Reinvent Metal. for a reason they call them that. WHY DO YOU THINK IT'S CALLED THE NEW WAVE OF BRITISH HEAVY METAL??

Urban Hat€monger ?

What?

Both Iron Maiden albums he mentioned went in the top 10 when they were released. their debut got as high as no 4.Also both Motorhead albums went top 20.They were known.

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yes urban but Iron Maiden formed in 1975 they Didn't release their first album untill 1980 5 full year after the release physical graffity and two full years after never say die by black sabbath. That is why metal was being called dead . because of the Punk Invasion.
OO and Iron Maiden album never went gold they only made it on the uk charts and a domestic band.

Urban Hat€monger ?

Still proves your statement wrong

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if you check from 1975 to 1981 nothing metal was known to the world.