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Stone Magnet 05-22-2006 09:01 PM

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Well I'm getting kind of sick of the personal insults on this forum.
I never insulted you personally. Note the 'if's.

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as for any Odysseys in the song they would be completly lyrical
Partly musical, partly lyrical. The music only situates the atmosphere and spirit of the song. It can temperately tell a story, but the lyrics work as concrete. They solidify what the song is about and assist in the conveying of a message. The lyrics and music work together to propel the listener on an odyssey.

PostPsychosis 05-22-2006 09:08 PM

I suppose if thats what you like, but as I said lyrics don't do a whole lot for me. They are welcome but lyrics have never made or broken a song for me.

Merkaba 05-22-2006 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PostPsychosis
I suppose if thats what you like, but as I said lyrics don't do a whole lot for me. They are welcome but lyrics have never made or broken a song for me.

I somewhat agree. Lyrics have never broken a song for me (we'll exclude pop music to make this statement true) but then some lyrics have made a song for me, songs like Aenima and Reflection.
Reflection could be considered hard to sit through but the lyrics are quite spiritual and do make a significant difference to the song. It starts to feel like a journey rather then 11 minutes of tribal music. While Aenima's lyrics engulf the listener with emotion's of dispair and rage, situated perfectly alongside the music.
Tool's magic lies in their ability to match the tone of the music to the theme and emotion of the lyrics. Think about this for a second, apply it to songs like 'The Grudge', 'Bottom', 'Ticks and Leeches', '10,000 Days', 'Aenima'.

10,000Days particularly, if you don't pay much due to the idea of the lyrics then chances are it's going to be a long 12 minutes. Maynard sings with a sense of sorrow and grievance, thus the music is cold and errie. Probably not much fun if you don't really feel the want to put yourself in his position.

Stone Magnet 05-22-2006 09:31 PM

10,000 Days' musical climaxes = Awesome.

Wings For Marie isn't too exciting though, musically.

draxus 06-02-2006 09:20 AM

Vicarious is an awesome song, and so is Jambi, but the rest of the cd is too repetitive for my taste, their too long and they have really long Intros.The recordings sound like the singer is standing on the other side of the room b/c you can barely hear him. i like the first couple of songs though.

swim 06-17-2006 09:47 PM

Am I the only person who literally cried when they first heard this album? I'm just that much of a fanboy?

There's a "secret" song when you play Viginti trees and Wings for Marie in sequence at the same time as 10,000 days. Amazing.
So, who knows of all the other secret tool stuff?

tdoc210 08-13-2006 07:59 PM

tool doesnt suck lol @ ignorance

sleepy jack 08-13-2006 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by the death of capitilism
tool doesnt suck lol @ ignorance

Ugh, how come its ignorance when someone says a band you like sucks but when you say a band sucks its unquestionable fact?

tdoc210 08-13-2006 08:08 PM

Because that the truth fool

TheBig3 08-13-2006 09:08 PM

Well I don't think we should attack tdoc when he's on the right path. Saying a band sucks is usually bad form, save for when you think a member sucks, a la scott stapp.


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