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Old 05-22-2006, 07:39 PM   #141 (permalink)
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why dont you show my whole post where i said how it is a song.
"my favorite song is Rosetta Stoned and my least is Lipan Conjuring, that song is just flat out stupid."

You referred to it as a song twice in one sentence.

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dispite whether or not you consider it a song its still g ** and pointless. i dont care if there is some meaning behind it its retarded.
If there is a meaning behind it, then it isn't pointless.

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now stone magnet quit trying to start arguments over stupid crap, its just dumb.
I'm not arguing, just illuminating the dolts of the forum.
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Old 05-22-2006, 07:40 PM   #142 (permalink)
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They're called segues. Many of them represent something, or are just there as some kind of jest. A couple of the segues do drag on a little longer than is necessary, but Lipan Conjuring? Come on. It's one minute long, and Danny has confirmed that it is there for a reason.


A lazy band? They put more effort into their album art and packaging than any band I've ever seen, not to mention their absolutely stunning videos. And this isn't even getting into the music itself.
The music is all I care about, the album could come wrapped in a paper bag for all I care (it worked for In through the out door). The music is all I care about nothing else. An album cover will make me say "hey, thats a cool album cover" but nothing else. The band is about 15 years old and only has 5 albums. Most bands don't take 5 god damn years to release an album. A lot of bands that haven't been around as long have more albums. While I will agree they put a lot of work into their albums, it didn't show on 10,000 days. To me it seemed they put more work into the art than the music.
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Old 05-22-2006, 07:43 PM   #143 (permalink)
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"my favorite song is Rosetta Stoned and my least is Lipan Conjuring, that song is just flat out stupid."

You referred to it as a song twice in one sentence.


If there is a meaning behind it, then it isn't pointless.


I'm not arguing, just illuminating the dolts of the forum.
Just because it has meaning to it doesn't mean it isn't worthless. I'm sure that "Oops I did it again" has SOME meaning to it, you gonna go run out and buy it? It's not worthless? What about the song mantra? Some retarted ass stoner can smoke up listen to it and say "yeah i get what they're saying here" that still makes it worthless. In fact I could fart into a mic and you'd probably find some meaning to it, and I'd stick it on my album and people would defend it. As for pointing out the dolts on this forum, who is the dolt, the people on here who actually argue about music, or the guy who is just a whinly little bitch and finds any reason to satisfy his PMS urges with dumb worthless arguments? You can have whatever opinion you want, if the first track you skip to is Lipen conjuring, than fine thats cool, all he said was that its his least favorite song on the CD and that he thought it was worthless, but because of you and your pointless ass arguments this thread should be retitled "is lipen conjuring a song" thread.
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Old 05-22-2006, 07:57 PM   #144 (permalink)
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The music is all I care about
The music is the central element, yes, but Tool is a very artistic band. Music is not the only type of art out there.

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Most bands don't take 5 god damn years to release an album.
Most bands also don't evolve as much between albums as Tool do either.

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A lot of bands that haven't been around as long have more albums.
Quality, not quantity.

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they put a lot of work into their albums, it didn't show on 10,000 days.
You may not like the album, but they clearly put a lot of work into 10,000 Days. The epic doublets on the album (Wings For Marie/10,000 Days & Lost Keys/Rosetta Stoned) alone prove this.
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Old 05-22-2006, 08:01 PM   #145 (permalink)
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I wouldn't call those epic....

And I had said going into this CD that it was cool that they were taking so long, because I figured it was going to be awesome, but alas it wasn't.
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I wouldn't call those epic....
And why not?
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Epic makes me think of Dante's Inferno, Majesty, songs that take you on a journey, not put you to sleep. But to each his own.
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I think they did a good job with the album. It isn't their best but I actually enjoy it more than Lateralus. It has something secular that they never had before. It took me about a month to worm up to it and then it hit me as a really good album.
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songs that take you on a journey, not put you to sleep.
You must be conceptually incompetent if you are unable to recognize the odysseys environed by Wings For Marie/10,000 Days and Lost Keys/Rosetta Stoned.

You must be musically incompetent if the said monuments put you into any sort of a dormant state.
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You must be conceptually incompetent if you are unable to recognize the odysseys environed by Wings For Marie/10,000 Days and Lost Keys/Rosetta Stoned.

You must be musically incompetent if the said monuments put you into any sort of a dormant state.
Well I'm getting kind of sick of the personal insults on this forum. I said to each his own, and as I also said the beauty of Tool is that not everyone is going to like it or hate it. I found the songs boring, as for any Odysseys in the song they would be completly lyrical, which isn't enough for me. In fact lyrics are the last thing I care about in a song. I can even like retarted cookie cutter Bush Basher lyrics if the music is good, and it's sung well. While I haven't looked up the lyrics to the album I can assume from a lyrical stand point that like all Tool albums it is perfect, but that isn't one of my priorities in the music I listen too.
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