I think his point is that it is a worthless track. Of course Tool always has filler tracks, but thats just because they are a pretty lazy band.

They're called segues. Many of them represent something, or are just there as some kind of jest. A couple of the segues do drag on a little longer than is necessary, but Lipan Conjuring? Come on. It's one minute long, and Danny has confirmed that it is there for a reason.

A lazy band? They put more effort into their album art and packaging than any band I've ever seen, not to mention their absolutely stunning videos. And this isn't even getting into the music itself.

just because its one minute long dosnt mean its not a song. i mean alot of Misfits songs are less than 2 minutes, are they not songs? that song (Lipan) pisses me off thats all i was saying. its a sh***y song thats all there is too it.

Napalm Death has a 3 second long song. Most hardcore punk songs are about a minute give or take 20 seconds on average.

It's not a fucking song, you cretin. I just explained that. Now where are we? Right back where we started, again. Me trying to explain your own asininity to you, succeeding an unwitting, inane comment appertaining to you.

"Rain forty days, please fucking rain to wash these turds off my fucking life! Wash these human wastes of flesh and bone off this planet! I pray to you, God, to kill these fucking people!"
- Bill Hicks

ello..its not a song.......its lenght doesnt matter.., its like stom megnet said, its a trasition...the songs good too..it also has a purpose..its a native american chant..or something like it....

They do "filler" stuff on all of their albums but the fact is that it has meaning. On undertow they have blank tracks so that the album will be 69:11 and Aenema has many trasition tracks most notoriously the intro to third eye, Lateralus has the alien attack crap, I'm not sure what track it is on 10,000 there's that guy in the hospital, Tool is a band that doesn't do things on the surface (does anyone know that code thing, of the way you're really suppose to play one of your albums and it means something, er, am I being too vague?) It all has meaning and a purpose

Each track is one second long, and together they add less than a minute to the album. It's no different from adding a bit of silence before a 'hidden' track. Without the silences, the album would've still been 68 minutes long.

Yeah, Ænima had a few, but (-) Ions is the only that should have been shortened.

It's only three minutes long, and it's not composed of drawn-out noises like (-) Ions and Viginti Tres.

That track is the intro to Rosetta Stoned. It's not a segue.

They are not 'filler' tracks. "Lipan Conjuring" is not on 10,000 Days for the sole purpose of increasing the album's length. The same goes for any other segue on any other Tool album.

I was saying that 69:11 has a meaning, sex.

Edit: Did you not read this?
Because I'm not sure what you're getting at, I never said those tracks were used to increase album length and, they're not.

why dont you show my whole post where i said how it is a song. look, i consider Lipan a song cause it actually has something too it i dont count something like the 1 second tracks on Undertow as songs. dispite whether or not you consider it a song its still g ** and pointless. i dont care if there is some meaning behind it its retarded. all im saying is that of all the songs/tracks/"segues" whatever on that cd its the worst one. now stone magnet quit trying to start arguments over stupid crap, its just dumb.